Another "I can't breath" death: Police Reform & Protests in the USA

[Machismo]

I see RDA is resorting to outright shitposting to justify murder.

[Felya]

I see RDA is resorting to outright shitposting to justify murder.

RDA isn’t banned... @rda ... I don’t think these are the same.

[Edge-]

This is why all cops should be 1000% in favor of body cameras. They provide exculpatory documentation of the encounter.

Which tells you everything you need to know about officers and departments who resist the use of body cameras.

Meanwhile, one of the officers involved in the shooting was recorded asking one of the SWAT officers on the street if his body-camera was off, moments before it was turned off. Wonder what they didn't want recorded on the record?

[Machismo]

RDA isn’t banned... @rda ... I don’t think these are the same.

Its about activity, and posting style. People lose account information all the time, especially when rocking multiple accounts.

[Specialka]

So let me get this straight. The cops claim they announced themselves but there's no footage except for a cop being shot? Why do we need to rely on witness testimony when they should have footage of the entire event.

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A detective made up some bullshit on a warrant. A judge signed all the warrants without reading them. The police busted into someone's apartment without announcing themselves, resulting in an innocent person dying. The cops lie about it and tamper with the crime scene. All for what? Capturing some drug dealer they already had in custody? How is any of this behavior acceptable?

Sorry but it seems they have announced themselves as it was declared so by Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron. You would want to check your facts.

How did they lie and tamper the crime scene then ?

[Elegiac]

Sorry but it seems they have announced themselves as it was declared so by Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

You and he are gonna need to provide some evidence.

[Felya]

How did they lie and tamper the crime scene then ?

The body cam footage that didn’t exist, then existed and the body cams not being part of policy, while footage shows on of the officers with an over the shoulder body cam.

[Edge-]

Sorry but it seems they have announced themselves as it was declared so by Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron. You would want to check your facts.

Except one of the officers involved WAS wearing a body camera on his shoulder, which crime scene photo's prove. Where's his footage?

How did they lie and tamper the crime scene then ?

Video was just released showing the officers involved, who should have been paired up with officers from another unit and separate from each other and the removed from the crime scene, milling about the crime scene and being told to leave by SWAT officers, chatting with a SWAT officer on the street after requesting he turn his body camera off, chatting with each other, and generally not following any department procedures or guidelines following an officer involved shooting.

It helps to come to threads informed.

[DingDongKing]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

You and he are gonna need to provide some evidence.

It's funny how all the anti Big Gov conservatives go with the, 'but the Attorney General said they declared themselves' argument.

[Specialka]

It's funny how all the anti Big Gov conservatives go with the, 'but the Attorney General said they declared themselves' argument.

So he did not declared that ? Or do you imply he lied ?

[eschatological]

So he did not declared that ? Or do you imply he lied ?

We're implying he's lying, because he's a shill.

[unfilteredJW]

So he did not declared that ? Or do you imply he lied ?

Is it hard to type with a boot shoved that far into your mouth?

[Edge-]

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/b...lors-apartment

More on the Breonna Taylor murder. Louisville SWAT who arrived on the scene were not comfortable.

When Massey and other SWAT team members arrived at Taylor’s apartment complex, they were met with what Massey described as a “chaotic scene.” There were multiple reports of automatic gunfire, and officers kept saying that someone inside the apartment had a rifle. All of this led him to believe the sliding glass doors were riddled with bullets that were shot from inside.

It wasn’t until minutes later, he said, that he realized the rounds had actually come from outside, and were all fired by police. At one point, now-former LMPD detective Brett Hankison gestured to the shot-out windows, and tapped his chest — '“almost to say, ‘yeah that was me,’” Massey told investigators. Hankison is one of three officers who LMPD says fired their weapons that night. He was fired in July, and is appealing his termination.

Massey also makes it clear that involved officers were roaming freely on scene after the incident, despite LMPD’s explicit policy that they be separated and paired with a peer support officer. He specifically recalls seeing Detective Myles Cosgrove, who fired 16 rounds that night according to LMPD, walking around the scene with a rifle.

“While we’re on scene, we learned that Cosgrove’s involved in it. Like, I had no idea he was part of it,” Massey said.

Later, he added “I do remember saying, ‘Hey, separate him. He’s involved.’ He was way too up in the mix.”

Even after Massey raised concerns about Cosgrove’s presence on scene, Massey says he still was not removed.

Another SWAT officer, Sgt. Brandon Hogan, also saw Cosgrove walking around. While SWAT was inside the apartment, Hankison stepped inside and began asking questions about the scene. “This is a crime scene,” Hogan tells him, as another SWAT officer tells Hankison to get out. This is confirmed by body camera footage, which was also obtained by VICE News.

Hogan recalls being surprised to learn later that Hankison was involved in the shooting.

“From my experience with my officer-involved, I was immediately assigned an escort officer,” Hogan said. “They took me into my car and told me, “Hey, just chill out, don’t say nothing.’” In their own interviews with investigators, Hankison and Cosgrove confirm they were not separated from the scene.

SWAT Sergeant Joel Casse, who also helped clear the apartment, expressed similar concerns.

“You know something that came up that I wasn’t necessarily happy with myself and it — it might end up coming up later in the investigation of, while we were in there controlling the scene, there was officers that were trying to come into the scene and Sergeant Hogan was trying to keep them back out,” Casse told investigators on March 20.

But interviews with SWAT members show they had concerns with more than just what they observed in the aftermath of the raid. SWAT wasn’t even aware of the raid on Taylor’s apartment until they were radioed to provide backup for an officer-involved shooting at her address.

Much more here, but it's increasingly looking like there's some serious criminal negligence on the part of the officers involved in the murder of Breonna Taylor.

[Specialka]

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/b...lors-apartment

More on the Breonna Taylor murder. Louisville SWAT who arrived on the scene were not comfortable.



Much more here, but it's increasingly looking like there's some serious criminal negligence on the part of the officers involved in the murder of Breonna Taylor.

"Death" of Breonna Taylor. Use the right word.

[Themius]

"Death" of Breonna Taylor. Use the right word.

That’s your issue here not literally everything?? And how did she die? Heart attack? She was shot to death she was murdered.

[Specialka]

That’s your issue here not literally everything?? And how did she die? Heart attack? She was shot to death she was murdered.

Nope, she was basically a bystanders that was shot, not on purpose or anything meaning it was not murder, unless it is ruled that way by a court.

And yes, a lot was done wrong that night, obviously. You should still use the right word to describe things.

[Howel]

Nope, she was basically a bystanders that was shot, not on purpose or anything meaning it was not murder, unless it is ruled that way by a court.

Involuntary manslaughter or criminally negligent homicide, then. Because odds are that's what it can be ruled as quite easily.

[Themius]

Nope, she was basically a bystanders that was shot, not on purpose or anything meaning it was not murder, unless it is ruled that way by a court.

And yes, a lot was done wrong that night, obviously. You should still use the right word to describe things.

She was shot in the commission of a crime by officers who falsified reports to get warrants, thereby making them illegally obtained warrants. As they started a situation they knew could be deadly, and started it by breaking the law it is murder

[Elegiac]

You should still use the right word to describe things.

Why are you more concerned about people's vocabulary than you are over the fact an innocent bystander was shot to death by the pigs while she was in her own home?

[Pannonian]

Why are you more concerned about people's vocabulary than you are over the fact an innocent bystander was shot to death by the pigs while she was in her own home?

That's the priority:

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