Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Fugus]

Boy wouldn't it just be a chad move if Biden just agreed to being frisked on stage as long as Trump did the same.

I have heard that twice and no clue what it means.

What is a "Chad" move? I say this as a guy named Chad.

[Felya]

There's a scene in The Boys where, to avoid spoilers as much as possible, a metahuman tears up two out of three bad guys and the third just offs himself.

Trump has three choices. #2 is to continue the fight and likely be torn up. #3 is to refuse to show, which is declaration of cowardice and failure. Techincally he could show up prepared and win (option #1) but he'd have to bring kryptonite, by which I mean "cherry-picked facts Biden doesn't have responses to". Which is going to be tough. The trick is
a) they have to be true (or fact-checking ruins everything)
b) they have to be something Biden doesn't have a quick response for, but
c) they also have to be meaningful. Trump might say, fictional example, that the median household income of elementary school principals grew 4.5% and well above the past few years. Um, okay, so what? That's too niche to be useful. For every specific ag product that might be doing better in 2020, I can name five that dropped in 2019.

It's not enough to bring a kryptonite bullet, you also have to hit the target. And Trump has proven he hates doing any kind of work or reading.

You're right, it doesn't sound winnable. It's possible, but I don't like those odds. So now it's risk assessment. How sure are you, that the metahuman is not just going to kill you, but also do so far more painfully than a gun to the chin? Yes, yes, Trump could be trying to set the stage where he forfeits but somehow still wins. Nobody's going to accept that -- not even his own rabid fanbase, though they'll pretend.

Biden just needs to let Trump go on rants. “Speak softly and carry a big stick” should be the Biden tact... give Trump rope, then choke him with it... verbally... Although, if Biden lasso’s Trump during the debates, it would be a win...

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I have heard that twice and no clue what it means.

What is a "Chad" move? I say this as a guy named Chad.

It’s kids slang for jock...

[Zan15]

I mean.. I can understand where people come from when they tell me the protests have been mostly peaceful with people respecting heath guidelines, etc.

Asking me for proof while living in 2020 in front of a pc with access to the internet that there's been a lot of social unrest with pillaging, burning and deaths on the USA for a few months.. that's some next level dishonesty

"a lot"

damn son i guess you were not alive in the 1960-1970-1980-1990s if you think this is "a lot"

You also do not really understand how tiny of a fraction it is, even if you add up both peaceful and violent protest.

on top of all that violent protest are even a fraction of that tiny fraction.

You are right, next level dishonesty.

[Elegiac]

I have heard that twice and no clue what it means.

What is a "Chad" move? I say this as a guy named Chad.

There's a lot of cultural context but the shortest answer it's slang derived from incel subculture and the belief that men can be divided into 'Virgins' or 'Chads' - so a 'chad move' is one that establishes your superiority and desirability as a mate, basically.

[Zan15]

This is a Fox News debate to boot... imagine what happens in a couple of weeks, when it’s not Fox...

my bet is he never shows up to another one after this one.

i also put 10 bucks down on a 100-1 that he walks out of tonight's debate

[Felya]

"a lot"

damn son i guess you were not alive in the 1960-1970-1980-1990s if you think this is "a lot"

You also do not really understand how tiny of a fraction it is, even if you add up both peaceful and violent protest.

on top of all that violent protest are even a fraction of that tiny fraction.

You are right, next level dishonesty.

Can’t we all just get along? RIP...

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my bet is he never shows up to another one after this one.

i also put 10 bucks down on a 100-1 that he walks out of tonight's debate

I think there are a few key words that would make Trump storm off, but I don’t think Biden will go for the jugular.

[Zan15]

I think there are a few key words that would make Trump storm off, but I don’t think Biden will go for the jugular.

Yah, he is better off keeping trump there talking...lying...in the long run then getting him to storm off.

[tikcol]

"a lot"

damn son i guess you were not alive in the 1960-1970-1980-1990s if you think this is "a lot"

You also do not really understand how tiny of a fraction it is, even if you add up both peaceful and violent protest.

on top of all that violent protest are even a fraction of that tiny fraction.

You are right, next level dishonesty.

Even if 1 person was killed during a riot caused to protest the death of another, it is 1 too many.

[Breccia]

I don’t think Biden will go for the jugular.

I disagree. Biden's a brawler. This isn't "save all your CDs for Phase Three". This is "kill the motherfucker right now". He will exploit every opening Trump gives him, rather than hoping there'll be another one later. If Trump leaves or cancels other debates, again, that's a Biden victory. In boxing, it's a KO if the other boxers chooses not to get up during the ten-count. They don't need to be unconscious to lose.

Trump admits he's lost if he leaves or flakes out. The only realistic reason he'd do that, is if he believes the beating he takes will be worse than merely losing. I think he's more likely to just ignore time limits and whose turn it is and just start shouting over everything Biden says, like a fucking toddler, daring Wallace to put him in his place, before he actually concedes and walks out.

But boy is it a close call.

[Fugus]

There's a lot of cultural context but the shortest answer it's slang derived from incel subculture and the belief that men can be divided into 'Virgins' or 'Chads' - so a 'chad move' is one that establishes your superiority and desirability as a mate, basically.

k, heard it twice. Now finally know what it is. Was weird hearing my name and no clue what it was talking about.

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I disagree. Biden's a brawler. This isn't "save all your CDs for Phase Three". This is "kill the motherfucker right now". He will exploit every opening Trump gives him, rather than hoping there'll be another one later. If Trump leaves or cancels other debates, again, that's a Biden victory. In boxing, it's a KO if the other boxers chooses not to get up during the ten-count. They don't need to be unconscious to lose.

Trump admits he's lost if he leaves or flakes out. The only realistic reason he'd do that, is if he believes the beating he takes will be worse than merely losing. I think he's more likely to just ignore time limits and whose turn it is and just start shouting over everything Biden says, like a fucking toddler, daring Wallace to put him in his place, before he actually concedes and walks out.

But boy is it a close call.

Not only that, if Biden gets Trump to storm off, not only does Biden make him look weak, but Biden then gets the stage to himself on top of it.

[Adam Jensen]

What's a fascist to you? You don't get to redefine what a fascist is with your uneducated or simply ignorant political "tendencies"

Trump has been trying to undermine our elections all year long, making false claims of "rigging" by democrats through mail in ballots, spreading fake news and doctored stories from James O'Keefe. Trump scapegoats American problems on minorities and opposition groups. Trump has terrible human rights policies including stripping children away from their parents and keeping them in camps at the border. Trump spreads propaganda to convince Americans of his lies, while calling the media "lugenpresse" (german for "lying press" which is another way to say, "fake news.") Trump is a nationalist (or at least acts like one) to an extreme, hugging flags and claiming to be the sole person who can save America. He constantly uses evangelical fervor to garner support and cozies up with dictators.

He's literally playing by the fascist playbook

https://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html

He fits all 14 points.

[Orlong]

Also, congratulations on Eric Trump for coming out as a member of the LGBTQ community on national television.

I hope Donald disowns him and writes him out of his will for embarrassing him like that on National Television
[Infraction]

[Breccia]

Not only that, if Biden gets Trump to storm off, not only does Biden make him look weak, but Biden then gets the stage to himself on top of it.

This is why I previously said (or at least should have) that leaving mid-debate is the dumbest thing Trump can do. I suggested the Committee let Biden have the stage solo if Trump cancels before, but I don't know if they would. If Trump leaves, they have no choice -- the time slot is filled and the cameras are rolling.

Oh, by the way, Trump claims the Green New Deal basically removes cows. It does not -- the words "cow" and "cattle" make no appearance at all. Trump either didn't read it, or did and had a senior moment. Neither trait is redeeming. We Rate This Claim False.

[Adam Jensen]

And the Democrats platform is force people to wear a stupid mask, raise taxes and bash Trump and republicans. They have no plans unless they arent announcing them because they know we will hate it

You know what I find hilarious?

Your history of posting shows you have germophobia and a desire for cleanliness . . . yet wearing a mask is too much to ask for? During a pandemic?

[TigTone]

I hope Donald disowns him and writes him out of his will for embarrassing him like that on National Television

He’s not a criminal serial killer so why should trump Disown him?

A parent should love their child almost unconditionally.

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You know what I find hilarious?

Your history of posting shows you have germophobia and a desire for cleanliness . . . yet wearing a mask is too much to ask for? During a pandemic?

I assume thats the real orlong and not the character he or she plays.

[Breccia]

Fuck no. He released his taxes.

Wait, wait, sorry, I made a mistake. Sorry everyone.

it was Biden and Harris. It was both of them.

[Orlong]

Wear a mask because the science says it will save lives.
Raise taxes on the rich because that's what we should be doing anyway to pay for social programs and basic things like healthcare anyway.
Bash Trump and the GOP because they have been doing everything they can to screw over everyone else for as long as anyone can remember.

Thanks for providing a list of good reasons.

There is plenty of science that says the masks are useless too but youll just claim they are from right wing lying doctors without even reading the studies. Additionally they cause many people to have headaches and hypoxia and for people like me who have asthma and COPD it makes it very hard to breathe while wearing one. But if you want to read them here they are:

https://www.rcreader.com/commentary/...-social-policy

https://www.maciverinstitute.com/202...d-of-covid-19/

[Machismo]

I hope Donald disowns him and writes him out of his will for embarrassing him like that on National Television

How very homophobic of you. So, in the land of Trumpstervania... white supremacy and rape are good, but being gay is detestable. Got it.

[Breccia]

This just in: the trade gap has widened. It was $83 billion last month -- a new record.

Trump's policies have failed. The trade gap is wider than ever before, and still widening.

[Orlong]

So, earlier I suggested Trump had three options and would pick #2, show up and get thrashed.

Um...there's new evidence and I'm less sure.

Trump wants Biden frisked for radios.

Yep, under 24 hours in and he's trying to add another rule, creating a conspiracy theory out of nowhere, possibly to come up with a reason he'll flake out.

Also,

STOP RESPONDING TO TRUMP SUPPORTERS WHO DIDN'T ANSWER THE CHALLENGE.

Stop typing in giant bold red letters. People dont have to listen to your orders