Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[bladeXcrasher]

They are not undecided, they are lying. An "undecided voter" is simply someone who is ashamed to admit who they support, or is trying to act like they are torn between two bad choice... when in realty, they have made their choice, and just don't want to be judged for it.

Yup. Much like the people now rambling on about Dr. Jorgensen. They do that because they are okay with the idea of Trump's America. It doesn't bother them.

[omerome]

They are not undecided, they are lying. An "undecided voter" is simply someone who is ashamed to admit who they support, or is trying to act like they are torn between two bad choice... when in realty, they have made their choice, and just don't want to be judged for it.

Yup. Especially when the choices are as obvious as they are today. Either you support racism and the destruction of our norms and values, or you don't. It's that simple.

[Machismo]

Yup. Much like the people now rambling on about Dr. Jorgensen. They do that because they are okay with the idea of Trump's America. It doesn't bother them.

Except, people who vote for Jorgensen aren't pretending to be undecided. They are simply saying there's no reason to vote for one of two shit sandwiches. In reality, most votes don't matter, because only the swing states have any real say. The Electoral College is a fucking cancer, just like Trump.

[Xarkan]

They are not undecided, they are lying. An "undecided voter" is simply someone who is ashamed to admit who they support, or is trying to act like they are torn between two bad choice... when in realty, they have made their choice, and just don't want to be judged for it.

It could also be people who do not want to admit they have no intention of voting... Well i guess that could fall under "they have made their choice and just dont want to be judged for it"

[Machismo]

It could also be people who do not want to admit they have no intention of voting... Well i guess that could fall under "they have made their choice and just dont want to be judged for it"

I agree, ambivalence would fall into that category. Some people just don't care about politics. They may be miserable, but they still cannot be bothered.

[DingDongKing]

I agree, ambivalence would fall into that category. Some people just don't care about politics. They may be miserable, but they still cannot be bothered.

The unfortunate part for them is that at this juncture in the history of America, making that decision to not be interested is extremely selfish.

[Breccia]

How is anyone undecided at this point?

I think some people are still of the mindset that both sides harbor liars and cheats, and both are old white men.

As much as our two-party system causes problems like this, we can't solve it by November. Yes, Biden has said some things which aren't true, said some things he shouldn't have, and while I don't have a list of campaign promises he broke I'm sure he's done it. But all of that pales in comparison to Trump who in the span of like 20 minutes not only told the Proud Boys to stand by but also tried to call Biden a racist -- due to the term "super predator" which, as I've already cited, Biden never actually used.

Thinking "well both sides are equal" is why we have a crashed economy, no world standing, an adulterer and thief in the White House and two hundred thousand bodies in the street. I can lament that there are only two sides, but anyone who actually looks cannot say both sides are equal.

[Machismo]

The unfortunate part for them is that at this juncture in the history of America, making that decision to not be interested is extremely selfish.

I agree, it is inherently selfish, as it shows a willingness to allow others to be subjected to such bullshit. It's tantamount top "minding one's own business" when a woman is sexually assaulted next door.

[Breccia]

The only thing i can think of is that these Undecideds lean right and either

a. Do not like trump, but don't want to break party lines

The term for this is "Republican" not Undecided.

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The second-quarter economy drop has been revised --

"You already posted that."

They adjusted it again. 31.4% gone in a single quarter is now the "less bad" result.

[Gorsameth]

How is anyone undecided at this point?

They are Trump supporters to embarrassed or scared to come out as such. Because I seriously cannot believe someone is genuinely undecided at this point in time.

[Mihalik]

This "debate"...was a perfect reflection of the state of American politics.

On one side you have a rabid gorilla beating his chest, frothing at the mouth and flinging his own shit... On the other side you have a bamboozled dumbstruck moron, trying to pretend he is not locked in a cage with a rabid gorilla who is about to rip his throat out.

What will it take for the Democrats to stop pretending this is politics as normal?

[Breccia]

So, add this

1) Biden was right about the suburbs, but that at least wasn't an objective Trump lie.

2) Unlike this one. Biden has already been clear he will not end fracking. Trump is lying. Also, when did the 2nd Amendment come up in the debates? Is that just more desperation I smell?

3) I swear, I don't get Trump trying to break the "radical left" from Biden. The "radical left" won't listen to Trump, and Biden knows what he's doing. But the real issue is calling him "sleepy Joe" when he just went toe-to-toe with you and by every media outlet on Earth gave better answers and followed the rules. The only media outlets that say Trump won use the excuse that Trump shouted the loudedst -- that's not a leadership quality. That's how a fucking five year old argues with their four year old sister.

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How is anyone undecided at this point?

Once again it's time for Guess the Speaker!

I regret that I will cause consternation perhaps in some corners, but even as a Republican, I will not be supporting Donald Trump for president, and I will not be voting for him. That means I will be voting for Joe Biden for president.

"Yet another party traitor, but probably some low-rent state senator or aide."

He's Marc Racicot, a former Montana governor --

"Hah! Like I said, some no-namer."

--who used to be the head of the RNC.

"Yeah but probably under Obama or Clinton."

2001 to 2003.

"Well, fuck."

Add Racicot to the growing list of "no-name party traitors" who either won't support, our outright oppose, Trump, including every living President.

[Orlong]

I really want the press to ask those five Trumphadi sycophants why they are opposed to committing to the peaceful transition of power after an election.

Its not about a peaceful transfer of power. Of course it would be peaceful. But Trump isnt going to say so because that means he is expecting to lose. He wont lose so there will be no transfer of power to be done peacefully. He didnt mean it would be violent. But hes not going to let the headlines say when Trump loses he will gracefully walk away.

Not to mention it was asked by a Playboy reporter. I want to know how a nudie magazine "reporter" got into the white house to ask such a dumb question or any question at all. Like someone who would write for such a piece of disgusting filth rag should ever be considered credible. Plus the perverts who read those kind of magazines arent reading them for political news or commentary

[downnola]

This "debate"...was a perfect reflection of the state of American politics.

On one side you have a rabid gorilla beating his chest, frothing at the mouth and flinging his own shit... On the other side you have a bamboozled dumbstruck moron, trying to pretend he is not locked in a cage with a rabid gorilla who is about to rip his throat out.

What will it take for the Democrats to stop pretending this is politics as normal?

I don't think it matters who you put on that stage, they're going to look dumbstruck and flustered because Trump vomits words and interrupts everyone during debates. I thought Biden did fine considering the absurdity of the angst-ridden walking corpse on the stage with him.

[Breccia]

Ross still isn't responding to a subpoena about the changes to the census so a federal judge is now threatening contempt charges.

UPDATE:Contempt proceedings begin.

[Orlong]

It pays to have a corporate sugar-daddy.

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Matt Gaetz - No surprise
Louie Gohmert - No surprise
Thomas Massie - No surprise
Steve King - No surprise
Clay Higgins - Not actually too familiar with him.

Short of Higgins who I don't know, that's sure a shortlist for the biggest pieces of shit in the House.

Thats because anyone who disagrees with what you think is right is a piece of trash. Personally Id take a House full of Louie Gohmerts

[Thepersona]

Thats because anyone who disagrees with what you think is right is a piece of trash. Personally Id take a House full of Louie Gohmerts

Hey, you're back withh the gish gallops!

[Orlong]

If Wallace cuts the mic there will be a petition by Trumpers to get him fired from Fox News within 30 seconds.

I think the biggest problem with all Presidential Debates is they just dont give enough time to answer a question. They need to give like 10 minutes to each of them instead of 2. Thats what causes people to keep talking or interrupting. Plus they dont give any rebuttal time so when one of them says some bullshit that isnt right about the other, they dont get to say hes full of shit, heres what I really did

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Yeah, but Fox can't fire him. Fox needs Wallace to give the network legitimacy.

They lost all of their legitimacy when Roger Stone stepped away and it was taken over by a left wing liberal. Once Hannity and Tucker are gone itll be just another MSNBC

[s_bushido]

But hes not going to let the headlines say when Trump loses he will gracefully walk away.

Please. So instead the headlines will be "self-styled dictator refuses to step aside if he loses." Good choice!

Not to mention it was asked by a Playboy reporter. I want to know how a nudie magazine "reporter" got into the white house to ask such a dumb question or any question at all.

Hah! Hahaha! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!



*ahem* Sorry. Don't know what came over me.

[Machismo]

Thats because anyone who disagrees with what you think is right is a piece of trash. Personally Id take a House full of Louie Gohmerts

So, you really like lying racists?

What a revelation...