Another "I can't breath" death: Police Reform & Protests in the USA

[Xyonai]

https://www.npr.org/sections/live-up...jury-recording

Remember how they were supposed to go live?

Well now he wants to delay the release. Oh and he didn't bring up manslaughter or murder charges to the grand jury.

But guuyyss!! It's bad to be angry about this, because the law is unbiased and unfeeling!!! You should stop being so emotional about this miscarriage of justice!!!

[Collegeguy]

[szechuan]

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where's the video about Police Unions and how they protect bad cops and how plenty of good cops can't do anything about the bad cops?

[DingDongKing]

where's the video about Police Unions and how they protect bad cops and how plenty of good cops can't do anything about the bad cops?

The Officer is right. People not from Portland coming in and destroying the city. It's the same thing that the Democrats are saying. The bad faith actors are not local to Portland, they're doing it because someone told them to do so. Hint; it's not ANTIFA. It's not the left.

Ironic that the Daily Signal thinks they're unraveling some deep state conspiracy, when really they've just confirmed the same pattern as when Rittenhouse came into Kenosha. People NOT from the local areas coming in and creating chaos, and then blaming BLM.

[Yadryonych]

The bad faith actors are not local to Portland, they're doing it because someone told them to do so. Hint; it's not ANTIFA. It's not the left.

Ah, true. No true Scotsman antifa would burn and destroy things. If someone is doing so, he's simply not an antifa

[Machismo]

https://www.npr.org/sections/live-up...jury-recording

Remember how they were supposed to go live?

Well now he wants to delay the release. Oh and he didn't bring up manslaughter or murder charges to the grand jury.

This is why people are pissed, and it's why they don't trust law enforcement or cops. There was never any question as to whether these officers would be charged, because it was literally never even an option.

The "few bad apples" lie is fucking done.

[Themius]

Ah, true. No true Scotsman antifa would burn and destroy things. If someone is doing so, he's simply not an antifa

Fbi says it’s right wing nationalists...

[DingDongKing]

Fbi says it’s right wing nationalists...

You're arguing with a Russian guy who's perpetuating the leftist mob myth 24/7.

[Felya]

Ah, true. No true Scotsman antifa would burn and destroy things. If someone is doing so, he's simply not an antifa

The concept of “no true nomad” is ludicrous...

[Edge-]

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2020...4061601571823/

A federal judge on Thursday ordered a law enforcement commission established by President Donald Trump not to release their findings in a report because their meetings violated transparency laws.

U.S. District Judge John Bates in the District of Columbia said the Presidential Commission on Law Enforcement and the Administration of Justice violates the Federal Advisory Committee Act because it didn't include "fairly balanced" perspectives. Also, he said, the commission held meetings in private without first notifying the public.

In which, again, Republicans try to stack the deck to dishonestly support their arguments and a judge has to remind them that there are rules about intentional and explicit bad-faith governance.

[Breccia]

Internal document shows Trump officials were told to make comments sympathetic to Kyle Rittenhouse

Federal law enforcement officials were directed to make public comments sympathetic to Kyle Rittenhouse, the teenager charged with fatally shooting two protesters in Kenosha, Wisconsin, according to internal Department of Homeland Security talking points obtained by NBC News.

In preparing Homeland Security officials for questions about Rittenhouse from the media, the document suggests that they note that he "took his rifle to the scene of the rioting to help defend small business owners."

Another set of talking points distributed to Homeland Security officials said the media were incorrectly labeling the group Patriot Prayer as racists after clashes erupted between the group and protesters in Portland, Oregon.

It is unclear whether any of the talking points originated at the White House or within Homeland Security's own press office.

Four former Homeland Security officials

"Oh who cares what some commie librul--

two of whom worked for Republican administrations

"Oh god dammit."

said it was unusual for law enforcement officials to be instructed to weigh in on a case involving a particular group or individual before investigations had concluded.

"It is as unprecedented as it is wrong," said Peter Boogaard, who was a spokesperson for Homeland Security during the Obama administration.

"What strikes me about the talking points is that they didn't call for calm among the public,” said Elizabeth Neumann, who served as DHS's assistant secretary for threat prevention and security policy in the Trump administration. “Even in the early hours after the incident, it was known private militias had self-deployed. …They seemed more interested in Rittenhouse's reputation than calling for calm and actual law and order.”

Neumann, who left the Trump administration in April, recently endorsed former Vice President Joe Biden for president.

The document instructs officials, if they are asked about Rittenhouse, to say they are not going to comment on an ongoing investigation and to say that "what I will say is that Rittenhouse, just like everyone else in America, is innocent until proven guilty and deserves a fair trial based on all the facts, not just the ones that support a certain narrative. This is why we try the accused in the court of law, not the star chamber of public opinion."

Bolded for blatant hypocrisy. Trump was caught telling a dozen lies during the debate, including some about Hunter Biden and some about ballots thrown into rivers. Saying "oh oh wait for the facts" is therefore hypocrisy of a level only Trump's supporters can demonstrate.

By the way, it's also a stupid thing to say in this context: Rittenhouse has announced plans to sue Biden for slander/libel. Problem is, as @cubby will tell you (I hope), to successfully sue you have to prove they knew the information was false. Well, funny story, if he hasn't been to trial yet, we don't know he's innocent either, do we? Oh, he's presumed innocent, but that's not how this works.

[Edge-]

https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dz7...-floyds-burial

With hundreds of mourners planning to gather in Pearland, Texas, on June 9 for the burial of George Floyd, local and federal authorities braced for “rioting and looting” in the Houston suburb — and they were willing to use deadly force.

As a horse-drawn carriage took Floyd’s body to its final resting place in Pearland’s Houston Memorial Gardens cemetery, planning records show that at least six “sniper teams” were in place on rooftops and authorized to open fire if the situation spiraled out of control. The records, labeled highly confidential, also state that an FBI surveillance aircraft was flown over the burial, and that “overwatch units” were sent to monitor the crowd for violent “agitators.”

Pearland officials also welcomed a large contingent of U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agents to the city, including dozens of members of the immigration agency’s militarized tactical unit. Known as BORTAC, it’s equipped with military-grade firepower and commando-style uniforms, and deploys to conflict zones “around the world,” according to the agency.

With the burial occurring in the wake of nationwide protests that in some instances turned violent, city records show that law enforcement prepared for the worst-case scenario in Pearland. The records show local and federal officials were ready and willing to open fire, even as the nation was undergoing a reckoning over systemic racism and excessive use of force by police in the aftermath of Floyd’s death.

The mayor of Houston took pains to emphasize the need for a more peaceful approach, announcing during his eulogy at Floyd’s funeral service that he would ban the use of chokeholds in the city. He also noted that Houston police officers are required to issue a verbal warning before shooting at anyone. In contrast, records show law enforcement in Pearland, about 20 miles south of Houston, had broad leeway to use deadly force during the burial proceedings.

The “rules of engagement” outlined in the documents show that CBP’s tactical unit was “geared up ready to deploy” in response to “verbal aggressive language” by protesters, or the throwing of empty water bottles. If the situation escalated to full water bottles or bricks being thrown, agents were authorized to use “less lethal/gas munitions.” If faced with more aggressive behavior that the officers believed could cause them imminent harm, the documents make clear: “deadly force is authorized anytime.”

What the fucking fuck.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dz7...-floyds-burial



What the fucking fuck.

You just don’t get it there gonna use his burial as the staging point to start there rebellion if not for the brave men and women ready to fucking snipe people at the drop of a hat they would have destroyed every thing!

/S obvious.

It takes a masssssive asshole to sigh off on this kind of thing or to take part in it.

[Edge-]

Snipers and military force for a funeral. Good job, America. Good job.

One could be forgiven for thinking that this was reporting on a failing, authoritarian state.

[cubby]

By the way, it's also a stupid thing to say in this context: Rittenhouse has announced plans to sue Biden for slander/libel. Problem is, as @cubby will tell you (I hope), to successfully sue you have to prove they knew the information was false. Well, funny story, if he hasn't been to trial yet, we don't know he's innocent either, do we? Oh, he's presumed innocent, but that's not how this works.

The issue of slander/libel must include an element of untruthfulness (to embrace NewSpeak) and in many cases must also include an knowing act of malicious intent. Lil Kyle put himself in the spotlight after his actions through social media. Because of that, he could be classified as a public figure, which would ramp up the requirements to prove those elements.

The issue of pre- or post-trial might not entirely come into play, because it will be based on the events that happened up and till the statements were made. However, the suit itself seems to be the new tactic by the right-wing nutjobs when people accurately call out who they are, and they get mad because the truth really does hurt.

[Breccia]

However, the suit itself seems to be the new tactic by the right-wing nutjobs when people accurately call out who they are, and they get mad because the truth really does hurt.

I wonder how long before the judge cuts Rittenhouse's mic off. Um, I might have two stories mixed up.

[cubby]

I wonder how long before the judge cuts Rittenhouse's mic off. Um, I might have two stories mixed up.

Possibly - but in the end, they are all the same good people.

[Edge-]

https://www.npr.org/sections/live-up...na-taylor-case

Grand Jury recordings are out.

[JohnBrown1917]

Great. 15 hours. A chance for everyone on both sides to cherry pick the things that support their chosen narrative.

Good thing that those who realize it was cold-blooded murder will not need to cherry pick.

[Antiganon]

https://www.npr.org/sections/live-up...na-taylor-case

Grand Jury recordings are out.

I like how AG instructions to the grand jury are specifically excluded.

Clearly there would never be anything relevant there, right?