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  1. #21
    Isn't 10-14 like 30 minutes to an hour? Doesn't seem too disruptive, especially if it works as a two hander until then. I'd be surprised if they ended up changing this in any way, it seems like that's how they intended for it to work.

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    I’m leveling a Druid and I got improved stealth at 16 (as feral), a level before I got actual stealth at 17.

    Definitely some things that got overlooked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deenman View Post
    oh rly?well thats fine then i guess,i didnt try making a new warrior to see,i know some abilities need offhand,but i guess u dont get them until after 14,thnx for the info/clarification
    My bad actually. As someone said, Raging Blow does require a weapon to be equipped in the offhand slot, though the tooltip just says "requires melee weapon". So from 10-14 you can play with the artifact but not using Raging Blow, or use 1 handed weapons. Hopefully it gets fixed, though I can't imagine it will have a high priority atm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo03 View Post
    I’m leveling a Druid and I got improved stealth at 16 (as feral), a level before I got actual stealth at 17.

    Definitely some things that got overlooked.
    lol,wow...i know this isnt a big deal or anything but just the impresion it leaves on players seeing this just reeks of incompetence

  5. #25
    While I can see how this is a technical oversight, how long does 10 to 14 actually take? 20 minutes maybe?

    It sounds like an extremely low priority thing to "fix".

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Locruid View Post
    What IS a mistake is the fact you do the Fury DW 2h Artifact quest at 10 but can't equip them until 14.
    Either change the Artifact to 1h, make an exception, or move TG to 10


    Discipline Priest cant even get their Artifact. When you go into the Nexus there is a part you HAVE to have Levitate to cross the floor. You dont get levitate until 21. You cant change the quest either so you are pretty much stuck as you cant get your Class Hall until after you get your artifact.
    That disc priest one is a bug. In the Prot Warrior one you need to use Heroic Throw, but it gives you the spell as a quest ability

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    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    That's the point, kind of. Artifacts have a tendency to override normal equip rules, so i'm wondering if you even need TG to wield the Fury one.
    Yes, you need TG. You can equip the artifact, but since it's two-handed, it just never spawns the offhand weapon, and you can't equip anything in the empty slot.
    Last edited by Amnaught; 2020-10-20 at 05:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnaught View Post
    Yes, you need TG. You can equip the artifact, but since it's two-handed, it just never spawns the offhand weapon, and you can't equip anything in the empty slot.
    it doesn't matter if it's 1H or 2H, you can't dual wield at all until 14, even though you do have a skill that NEED it to works but the only thing that show it is the descriptive of the skill (strike with both weapons) but only show in red that it requires melee weapon, singular.

    it doesn't matter that it's only for 4 levels that goes very fast, it only show that there a minor stuff that got glossed over or maybe pushed down the priority list, and maybe we can take that as a warning that many others things were overlooked.

    some releases were already full of bugs but everything looked polished still and it needed only a bit of time for the hotfixes. but I read most horfixes since the patch and some stuff should have been tested and corrected already, the PTR was long and there should have been enough testers to find all those problems. (like raging blow 4 level before DW, or the drood improved sneaking before the actual sneaking)

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by trapmaster View Post
    Well, if that's in case, couldn't you go for one handed dual wield till lvl 14?
    Sure, but no weapons drop in Legion content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ealyssa View Post
    Fury can use 1 hander too...

    TG being 14 isn't a bug nor a mistake, it's a choice blizzard made.
    It's definitely a mistake that you cant properly use your artifact weapon for four levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeenith View Post
    it doesn't matter if it's 1H or 2H, you can't dual wield at all until 14, even though you do have a skill that NEED it to works but the only thing that show it is the descriptive of the skill (strike with both weapons) but only show in red that it requires melee weapon, singular.

    it doesn't matter that it's only for 4 levels that goes very fast, it only show that there a minor stuff that got glossed over or maybe pushed down the priority list, and maybe we can take that as a warning that many others things were overlooked.

    some releases were already full of bugs but everything looked polished still and it needed only a bit of time for the hotfixes. but I read most horfixes since the patch and some stuff should have been tested and corrected already, the PTR was long and there should have been enough testers to find all those problems. (like raging blow 4 level before DW, or the drood improved sneaking before the actual sneaking)
    You can dual wield one-handed weapons at level 10. But a level 10 doesn't have two weapons of any decent quality, and none drop in Legion content. It's just sloppy.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo03 View Post
    I’m leveling a Druid and I got improved stealth at 16 (as feral), a level before I got actual stealth at 17.

    Definitely some things that got overlooked.
    BM hunter gets command pet at 23 but the pet doesn't get the ability you command it to until level 26.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnaught View Post
    You get Titan's Grip at level 14. But you get your artifact at level 10 if you choose Legion. It's a pair of two-handed swords that you cant use. This is an obvious oversight, feels really bad to not be able to use half of your abilities or be stuck with an Exile's Reach weapons till level 14.

    Why did they even move it from level 10?
    Wait... aritfacts don't give a f about what weapons you can use... otherwise feral and guardian druids would have major problem with their offhand

  11. #31
    even if its a bug. Cmon. 10-14 takes less than 20min

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    Ypu want odd one of my DH says speak to a trainer to learn disrupt rank 3..the trainer has nothing to say.

  13. #33
    At least some tanks get their taunt at level 14.. that is also kinda backwards as far as tanking goes, but at the end of the day these 4 levels take minutes to pass. It's certainly not elegant design in the slightest, but not earth shatteringly awful either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Locruid View Post
    What IS a mistake is the fact you do the Fury DW 2h Artifact quest at 10 but can't equip them until 14.
    Either change the Artifact to 1h, make an exception, or move TG to 10


    Discipline Priest cant even get their Artifact. When you go into the Nexus there is a part you HAVE to have Levitate to cross the floor. You dont get levitate until 21. You cant change the quest either so you are pretty much stuck as you cant get your Class Hall until after you get your artifact.
    You get an extra action button next to your quests if you don't have a skill you need for an artifact quest.

    #TEAMGIRAFFE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synical123 View Post
    This confirms it’s not a bug but a feature.

    /closed thread
    What's funnier, it also confirms OP didn't even test it properly, instead came up with a "potential" issue and went straight to the forums to complain. Top kek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Locruid View Post
    What IS a mistake is the fact you do the Fury DW 2h Artifact quest at 10 but can't equip them until 14.
    That is... not the case ?
    Please stop crying about imaginary facts, it's really really reeeeeeeally pathetic.

    Quote Originally Posted by JemiS View Post
    The bug is that you are given a set of two-handers you are supposed to equip when you are unable to do so.
    But you are able to...

    Quote Originally Posted by Amnaught View Post
    It's definitely a mistake that you cant properly use your artifact weapon for four levels.
    Let me guess you bright people are also all anti vaxers right ? Yelling against something without any facts or proof, the way of the retard...
    Quote Originally Posted by primalmatter View Post
    nazi is not the abbreviation of national socialism....
    When googling 4 letters is asking too much fact-checking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ealyssa View Post
    Let me guess you bright people are also all anti vaxers right ? Yelling against something without any facts or proof, the way of the retard...
    Was this part of your post really necessary?

  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Amnaught View Post
    You get Titan's Grip at level 14. But you get your artifact at level 10 if you choose Legion. It's a pair of two-handed swords that you cant use. This is an obvious oversight, feels really bad to not be able to use half of your abilities or be stuck with an Exile's Reach weapons till level 14.

    Why did they even move it from level 10?
    Or you can just play the 15 mins it takes to get from 10 to 14. It's not an oversight. It's a mini goal to reach.
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    why so mad bro

  19. #39
    Just use two 1 handed weapons with crusader, 200 strength while leveling is better than any artifact weapon could dream of being lol. Crusader is broken while leveling and it makes you literally melt shit.

  20. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Ealyssa View Post
    That is... not the case ?
    Please stop crying about imaginary facts, it's really really reeeeeeeally pathetic.


    But you are able to...
    ...If you're a troll, I salute your ability to ride the fence between absolutely ridiculous and just barely believable.

    When you equip the weapon at level 10, it doesnt spawn the second blade, you can't equip anything else in the empty slot, and you can't use any of your dual wielding abilities. I thought it was a bug before I realized that TG was moved to 14. It's sloppy.

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