Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Felya]

You know that freedom of speech that twitter and Facebook are attacking?

'Apparently in the Trump era laughing is a crime' | St. Louis activist sues President Trump
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/lo...p/63-527544198

More than 30 people were arrested at the event, including Brown. In a video on social media, Brown is heard laughing during President Trump’s speech, which led him to stop talking.

President Trump told police to remove Brown, saying ‘Get him out of here,’ almost immediately after Brown laughed. The crowd started to cheer as police started escorting Brown out of the rally.

[Inuyaki]

This kinda fits here, I guess:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v435y5TNMjQ
Real Lawyer Reacts to Idiocracy (The Movie)

His jabs at the current administration and later FoxNews are just too good (and the reason why this might fit here)



On other news:
Did Rudy Giuliani Just Cop To Possessing Child Pornography?

So what can Rudy expect? What do you get for possess child pornography for months?

[TEHPALLYTANK]

On a lighter note, here is very well done song on why you should wear a mask!

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/statu...90911174905857

I raise you a Randy Rainbow.

[Draco-Onis]

This fucking terrifies me.

30.
No underlying health conditions.
Was able to board a flight and apparently died because even taking off on the 1-2 hour flight.
Died on a fucking airplane.

Jesus christ, I know it was for completely different reasons but like...I'm slowly warming up to John Madden's fear of airplanes.

The article states she had an underlying health condition though they did not specify.

[Adam Jensen]

This fucking terrifies me.

30.
No underlying health conditions.
Was able to board a flight and apparently died because even taking off on the 1-2 hour flight.
Died on a fucking airplane.

Jesus christ, I know it was for completely different reasons but like...I'm slowly warming up to John Madden's fear of airplanes.

Meanwhile, we literally just had a poster in another thread claiming "only the weak die from COVID19"

[Benggaul]

Meanwhile, we literally just had a poster in another thread claiming "only the weak die from COVID19"

If that were true Trump would have been dust within seconds. Of course if he follows the Herman Cain route he still could be in a week.

[Adam Jensen]

This is going to get very, very bad if/when Trump loses the election. QAnon conspiracy nutters are absolutely fucking insane and now we have Fox news and Republicans promoting it with no evidence.

That's what I've been afraid of for four years. That someone will do something incredibly stupid in November resulting in violence.

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Donald Trump believes the military is building "hydrosonic" missiles.

But please tell me more about Joe Biden's dementia.

[Breccia]

Donald Trump believes the military is building "hydrosonic" missiles.

I believe we have footage of that.

On topic: desperate and thrashing, Trump demands Barr investigate Hunter Biden for...I have no idea, really, something vague about corruption. Yes, he said it on FOX and Friends.

Same interview, Trump also demanded a larger coronavirus relief bill --

"Well duh, McConnell only--"

Bigger than Pelosi's.

It’s very simple. I want to do it even bigger than the Democrats. Now, not every Republican agrees with me, but they will. But I want to do it even bigger than the Democrats, because this is money going to people that did not deserve what happened to them coming out of China.

Trump is shooting himself in the bone spurs. If the GOP was ready to move on a bill larger than Pelosi's, they would have taken Pelosi's offer months ago. The election is in 3 weeks.

(checks calendar)

Two weeks. And even if this is just Trump promising anything for votes -- he might have a point there, 72% of Americans want a larger relief bill -- it still forces a wedge in the Party of Trump. Do they abandon everything they've been doing and, yes, make an even larger bill, doubtless loaded with everything Pelosi wants, just before an election? Or, do they stick to their lower-cost guns and snub Trump in public, just before an election?

I don't see Pelosi walking away from an explosion on this. I see her watching the explosions from a distance, as the GOP tears itself apart, saying "Well, guess I'm not needed here".

Want more proof Trump is desperate and thrashing? Trump sues Google, claiming they have a monopoly on search engines. Yeah, Trump's so desperate for a win he's literally attacking Google.

Before an election.

What does he think that will do?

"So you think Google is a holy, virtuous company that can do no wrong?"

No, but I think Trump is so desperate for any kind of victory that he's blinded by rage. Taking a swing at, arguably, the most powerful company on Earth, just before an election? That's suicide. Google can spend Trump's net worth every day for a month. They're not scared of him.

[Adam Jensen]

I believe we have footage of that

There isn't much I hate more in video games than being forced to go underwater. Whether it's Sonic and Mario or World of Warcraft or Assassin's Creed, I HATE underwater content.

Sorry, back on topic . . .

[Breccia]

And why not, throwing this in here too: Rush Limbaugh's cancer is terminal.

The Republican Party is about to lose one of its staunchest allies, a crazy conspiracy theorist hypocrite drug abuser who captured a lot of Republican followers...somehow. I do not celebrate his death, just so we're clear, but Team Trump just lost yet another asset.

[DingDongKing]

And why not, throwing this in here too: Rush Limbaugh's cancer is terminal.

The Republican Party is about to lose one of its staunchest allies, a crazy conspiracy theorist hypocrite drug abuser who captured a lot of Republican followers...somehow. I do not celebrate his death, just so we're clear, but Team Trump just lost yet another asset.

He's a hate monger, but I do not wish death on him. Trump? Sure, he should die. Because he mocks the dead.

[xmirrors]

He's a hate monger, but I do not wish death on him. Trump? Sure, he should die. Because he mocks the dead.

A man like Rush Limbaugh is what allowed a man like Donald Trump to become president, by spreading controversy, conspiracy and hatred.

The world will be better off without Rush Limbaugh.

[Breccia]

CNN makes a semi-interactive article about Trump saying COVID-19 will just vanish.

I'm not going to quote it, because what CNN did, is as you scroll down from Feb to Oct, there's a graph indicating @Benggaul 's numbers and the quotes are written on top of the steadily widening number of cases. Mere words don't do it justice.

EDIT: No really, you have to see it. There's a great part in Jurassic Park, the book, where the computer is tracking all the dinosaurs and the numbers just keep rising and rising, and the different characters respond with different shades of concern and fear when they realize there's dozens of untracked dinosaurs, three dozen of which are raptors, loose and running around. CNN does the same thing here. The number of cases starts as a pixel-thin line and by summer fills the entire window side to side. It's masterful and horrifying.

However, I will quote two things.

One, the final bit:

Even without the vaccine, the pandemic’s going to end. It’s gonna run its course. It’s gonna end. They’ll go crazy. He said ‘without the vaccine’ — watch, it’ll be a headline tomorrow. These people are crazy. No, it’s running its course.

I think Trump has given up on a vaccine helping him, but that does not excuse this statement. Trump has made it clear, to the point of overstating it, that the flu comes back every year and kills what he claims is 100,000 people and he lied, but it's still a lot. The flu hasn't "run its course". Oh, and cases are going up and deaths have stopped inching down. That's not running its course, that's building towards a second...third?...wave.

And two, you knew I was going to dust off this classic, one that CNN somehow missed:

It’s one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.

[Edge-]

A man like Rush Limbaugh is what allowed a man like Donald Trump to become president, by spreading controversy, conspiracy and hatred.

The world will be better off without Rush Limbaugh.

Speaking of Rush "Smoking doesn't cause cancer" Limbaugh, he has terminal lung cancer now, apparently.

[Breccia]

Speaking of Rush "Smoking doesn't cause cancer" Limbaugh, he has terminal lung cancer now, apparently.

Yeah that...that's what we were talking about.

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So NBC News has this article that starts with this Trump tweet:

Every RALLY is BOFFO

Trump has been pitching the idea at rallies that Biden can't do rallies therefore Biden has no voters. First of all, NBC News points out Trump is lying about his rally numbers. Second of all, they point out Trump is continuing to do something that's demonstrably not working. Third of all, he's basically flying from airport to airport, speaking from the plane, meaning that if his staff is infected -- and no, we can't rule that out can we? -- he's spreading the lethal outbreak faster than any man alive.

But most of all:

Campaign advisers have said the rallies deliver Trump’s message to a local media market in a more direct — and cost-effective — way than television commercials. They also serve as large data collection opportunities where all attendees have to provide their name, email and cellphone numbers, giving the campaign updated lists of likely supporters for turnout purposes — though far fewer now than in the pre-coronavirus era.

In other words, Trump is out of money. He's forced to economize because he has no choice anymore.

Trump is spreading his message only to the small number of people willing to deal with airport security and hopefully temperature screening to see him -- people that were going to vote for him anyhow. To a certain extent, the only thing his wild, baseless or false claims do is bring more media attention to how wild, baseless and false the claims are. Trump thrives on crowds cheering him, yelliing "lock her up!" and "Superman!" (yes, they're doing that) but he's still behind in every way that matters.

Granted, he's low on options. But there's a reason why he's low on options. It's because he chose not to use any when he had the chance.

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I was going to post this CBS News article about Ohio, but it mostly turned into individual accounts like this one:

With just over two weeks until the election, University of Dayton political science professor Nancy Martorano Miller said President Trump's failure to secure a lead at this point is "surprising."

She said national-scale trends in polling may be behind the tight race in Ohio, as well.

"There's an increasingly growing gap with suburban women," Miller said. "And, you know, it is so much harder to run as the incumbent. It's very easy to run as, 'I am something different, I see you. I'm going to help you.'"

Giving up on that article, I went instead to 538 to see what they had to say about Ohio -- the race is tied there, turns out -- but saw this instead:

Why Trump Is Losing White Suburban Women

Over the past few months, President Trump has framed the 2020 election as a defense of suburbia. In a Wall Street Journal column in August, he and Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Ben Carson promised to protect the suburbs from being transformed into “dysfunctional cities.” And in a tweet several days later, Trump warned that suburban women should be wary of Democrats, as they would allow crime to drift into suburban communities. More recently, the president has grown less subtle, imploring suburban women at his rally in Johnstown, Pennsylvania, last week to like him. “[C]an I ask you to do me a favor, suburban women? Will you please like me? Please. Please. I saved your damn neighborhood, OK?”

It wasn’t that long ago, though, that Trump had an edge among suburban voters. In 2016, Trump won them, 47 percent to 45 percent, according to an analysis of validated voters by the Pew Research Center. But by 2018, 52 percent of suburban voters supported Democratic candidates for Congress, compared with 45 percent who supported Republican candidates. And according to our analysis of polling data from Democracy Fund + UCLA Nationscape, Trump is losing suburban voters to Biden, by 54 percent to 44 percent.

What is driving this move away from Trump and Republicans in the suburbs? According to our analysis of Democracy Fund + UCLA Nationscape data, beyond the diversification of the suburbs, it’s mostly because of white suburban women: 54 percent of them support Biden, while just 45 percent support Trump (very few are undecided). Meanwhile, white suburban men haven’t stopped backing Trump — he’s winning them 57 percent to 41 percent.

White suburban Republican women were less likely to score high on the question we used to measure gender resentment, about whether women who complain of harassment often cause more problems than they solve. This signals that, compared with white men, they may be less receptive to Trump’s rhetoric concerning women this time around. And that could be a big problem for Trump since sexist attitudes strongly correlated with support for him in 2016.

The same is true of some of Trump’s core campaign issues, like immigration, which don’t seem to resonate as much with white suburban Republican women as with white suburban Republican men. Of the five issues we looked at, white Republican women in the suburbs were far less hard-line than their male counterparts. On some issues, like support for building a wall along the southern U.S. border with Mexico, there wasn’t much difference, but on the question of separating a child if their parents could be prosecuted for entering the U.S. illegally, the gap in support was huge: Just 25 percent of white suburban Republican women supported that policy compared with 46 percent of white suburban Republican men. There was also a sizable gap on support for the deportation of all undocumented immigrants.

It goes on and on, but you get the point. Trump has become even more Trump, which includes his overtly misogynistic macho tone. And that got stale in a hurry. You'd think "grab them by the pussy" would be a more effective campaign slogan...

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[url=https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/521876-nih-chief-trump-has-not-met-with-white-house-covid-task-force-in-quite-some]NIH confirms Trump is no longer talking to the COVID task force. Instead, they say Trump is mostly talking to Dr. Atlas, who Trump hired this summer after he appeared on FOX News saying "it's not so bad, nobody will die" over and over.

I want you to read this bit here, and just try to measure the amount of passive-aggressive in it:

Obviously, it's a bit of a chaotic time with the election...There's not a direct connection between the task force members and the president as there was a few months ago, but this seems to be a different time with different priorities.

Oh, and the NPR interview...yeah, yet another Trump doctor going on the air to say Trump isn't doing enough, what are the odds...wasn't over.

We have not succeeded in this country in introducing really effective public health measures, those simple things that we all could be doing. Wear your mask, keep that six-foot distance and don't congregate indoors, whatever you do, and wash your hands. It's so simple.

People are talking about, is this the second wave? We never got over the first wave, we never really drove the cases down to the baseline. Here we are now with 220,000 dead and we're going straight up again with the number of cases that are happening each day.

Also in case this helps, don't make the same mistake I made: the head of NIH is named Collins, so I missed this article at first because I thought it was Senator Collins.

[DingDongKing]

You guys make the UK look good. Maybe that's the deep state plan afterall. Set you up for a takeover by us.

[Edge-]

You guys make the UK look good. Maybe that's the deep state plan afterall. Set you up for a takeover by us.

Somehow I don't think BoJo ziplining off the landing boat onto US shores while waving two little British flags in his hands is going to be much of a grand invasion : /

[Redwyrm]

In other words, Trump is out of money. He's forced to economize because he has no choice anymore.

He may be out of money, but by using Air Force One to hold continuous rallies. He is substituting our money for his. The tax payers are in part subsidizing Trump's campaign expenditures.

[DingDongKing]

Somehow I don't think BoJo ziplining off the landing boat onto US shores while waving two little British flags in his hands is going to be much of a grand invasion : /

Just you wait.

[Zan15]

That's what I've been afraid of for four years. That someone will do something incredibly stupid in November resulting in violence.

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Donald Trump believes the military is building "hydrosonic" missiles.

But please tell me more about Joe Biden's dementia.

isn't hydrosonoic what they did to the car in Grease?

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He may be out of money, but by using Air Force One to hold continuous rallies. He is substituting our money for his. The tax payers are in part subsidizing Trump's campaign expenditures.

well technically his campaign is supposed to pay for the flight if its to a campaign related thingy, but we know the law and order party will follow up to make sure....right? right?