Pope Francis publicly endorses civil unions for gay couples.

[Felya]

So during the uprising of communism/stalinism in the East during 20th Century, communists regimes did make atheism as part of their platform. Going as far as being violently antitheist.

Communism has nothing to do with theology. Marxist-Leonism/Stalinism has much to stay on the subject though.

That’s a half truth:



That’s red square... shared with the Kremlin, including where Lenin was on display... that doesn’t see, very Athiests.

[Rhlor]

And Hitler was Catholic, what’s your point?

Hitler believed in traditional German gods and not in a religion of Jewish origin such as Christianity.

There were cruel Catholic dictators like Pinochet in Chile.

About communism the point is that to say that fanatic and anti-religious atheism cannot exist is false. All communist regimes were anti-religious and Marx defended the idea of abolishing religions.

I'm an atheist but not because I'm an atheist I'm going to lie and say that there were no fanatical atheists who killed and persecuted religious people!

[Felya]

Uhhh, Marxism-Leninism has nothing to do with actual Marxism.

Say it three times over... lol

[Mihalik]

I will not pay attention to the thoughts of someone who has a clear racist bias as is the case of Huntington!

Of course that the definition of what the "west" is racist as fuck because it is 1. wildly Euro centric 2. mostly colonial (as in MADE UP BY COLONIAL POWERS).

The origin of the idea doesn't change what the idea means.

Stop being obtuse.

[Felya]

I'm an atheist but not because I'm an atheist I'm going to lie and say that there were no fanatical atheists who killed and persecuted religious people!

Your an Athiest, because nothing has a name.

[Ashleyxoxo]

Hitler believed in traditional German gods and not in a religion of Jewish origin such as Christianity.

There were cruel Catholic dictators like Pinochet in Chile.

About communism the point is that to say that fanatic and anti-religious atheism cannot exist is false. All communist regimes were anti-religious and Marx defended the idea of abolishing religions.

I'm an atheist but not because I'm an atheist I'm going to lie and say that there were no fanatical atheists who killed and persecuted religious people!

Except the real truth is that Hitler was religious and persecuted and killed religious people.

[Felya]

Except the real truth is that Hitler was religious and persecuted and killed religious people.

No, he wasn’t... he was an occultist...

[PACOX]

LGBT community cheers pope's remark: 'God made you like this'

Pope Francis’ reported comments to a gay man that “God made you like this” have been embraced by the LGBT community as another sign of Francis’ desire to make gay people feel welcomed and loved in the Catholic Church.

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Enuff said.

All that really matters.

[Rhlor]

Of course that the definition of what the "west" is racist as fuck because it is 1. wildly Euro centric 2. mostly colonial (as in MADE UP BY COLONIAL POWERS).

The origin of the idea doesn't change what the idea means.

Stop being obtuse.

The development is the separation of the West from the Latin American countries due to their racist hatred, mainly for Mexicans, and that is clearly seen in Who Are We: The Challenges to America's National Identity. His racist and Mexican-hatred ideas clearly inspire much of Trumpist thinking against Mexicans.

Mexico is a country that speaks a Western language, has mostly a Western religion and a Western economic political system

[Ashleyxoxo]

No, he wasn’t... he was an occultist...

Lmao nice image but no.

[Rhlor]

Your an Athiest, because nothing has a name.

I don't believe in any deity and neither in magic or anything like that

[Felya]

Lmao nice image but no.

Any justification? Because I have everything from symbology used, to literal quotes of Nostradamus being dropped on London...

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I don't believe in any deity and neither in magic or anything like that

That’s what I mean... If nothing had no name, how would we describe nothing?

[PACOX]

Uhhh, Marxism-Leninism has nothing to do with actual Marxism.

Nothing?
They aren't the same, and that's not what I was even suggesting.

I was explaining why someone might say communism is atheist because there's an actual flavor(s) of communism that take up atheism as a core ideology. I then I made sure to say communism and atheism are directly married to one another.

All communists =/= atheist
All atheist =/= communist

[Mihalik]

The development is the separation of the West from the Latin American countries due to their racist hatred, mainly for Mexicans, and that is clearly seen in Who Are We: The Challenges to America's National Identity. His racist and Mexican-hatred ideas clearly inspire much of Trumpist thinking against Mexicans.

Mexico is a country that speaks a Western language, has mostly a Western religion and a Western economic political system

All of it is true. Yet Mexico is still not a Western country no matter what, because it is not considered as such.

I understand that it is offensive and discriminatory, but that still doesn't change the fact that the meaning of the word does not apply.

You can go and have a debate about what the "west" ought to mean, but that's a different conversation.

Now stop derailing shit.

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Please let's not derail this into arguing about communism and atheism when neither have anything to do with this issue.

[PACOX]

Lmao nice image but no.

The Nazis were definitely secularists who loved the occult. It's in ideology and iconography. Catholicism was a convenient tool that they sort of loathed but realized they weren't going to get rid of it in mean time.

[PC2]

marx said "The abolition of religion as illusory happiness of the people"
This is because in communist thought religion gives people an immaterial hope of a life after life and that this weakens the possibility of the materialistic revolution of communism.

Well I agree with that part except I'm anti-Marxism and anti-revolution/pro-incrementalism. It does kind of seem like immaterial hope only hinders progress and never speeds it up.

[Ashleyxoxo]

The Nazis were definitely secularists who loved the occult. It's in ideology and iconography. Catholicism was a convenient tool that they sort of loathed but realized they weren't going to get rid of it in mean time.

Again, Hitler was specifically Catholic. I don't care what your Trumpkin neighbor told you at work, you're not going to argue facts.

[Shadowferal]

Without hope there is no progress.

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Hmf...just because you're born onto a religion doesn't make you a follower.

Nazi persecution of the Catholic Church in Germany

[Felya]

Again, Hitler was specifically Catholic. I don't care what your Trumpkin neighbor told you at work, you're not going to argue facts.

Show me an image of him attending mass...

[Ashleyxoxo]

Show me an image of him attending mass...

Unlike Make America Great Again guy, I have a source: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/451...d-that-atheism

if it’s an atheistic regime, then how come that in the first chapter of Mein Kampf, that Hitler says that he’s doing God’s work and executing God’s will in destroying the Jewish people? How come the fuhrer oath that every officer of the Party and the Army had to take, making Hitler into a minor god, begins, “I swear in the name of almighty God, my loyalty to the Fuhrer?” How come that on the belt buckle of every Nazi soldier it says Gott mit uns, God on our side? How come that the first treaty made by the Nationalist Socialist dictatorship, the very first is with the Vatican? It’s exchanging political control of Germany for Catholic control of German education. How come that the church has celebrated the birthday of the Fuhrer every year, on that day until democracy put an end to this filthy, quasi-religious, superstitious, barbarous, reactionary system?