Retri viable dps in naxx?

[RevolverLynx]

So with all the UD mobs there and with tier 2.5 i was wondering if retri actually could be fairly decent dps in naxx?

[Mosha]

Fairly decent as in better than before? Sure! Fairly decent as in compared to everyone else? Not at all

[AwkwardSquirtle]

Fairly decent as in better than before? Sure! Fairly decent as in compared to everyone else? Not at all

Wasn't a cheese strat found for ridiculous dps by stacking paladins and priests a few tiers back?

[Mosha]

Wasn't a cheese strat found for ridiculous dps by stacking paladins and priests a few tiers back?

I'm just speaking under normal circumstances, I'm sure there is a way. Idk if it's a private server thing but I'm pretty sure this is when shockadins come into play.

[Tyris Flare]

No. Whatever scaling you think you get will be dramatically outclassed by warriors, like usual.

[RevolverLynx]

No. Whatever scaling you think you get will be dramatically outclassed by warriors, like usual.

Bah! As always!

[Kaver]

So with all the UD mobs there and with tier 2.5 i was wondering if retri actually could be fairly decent dps in naxx?

If fairly decent dps is below 50 % of a warrior then yes.

[DazManianDevil]

And with the buff to Hunters access to attack power buffs, the gap should continue to widen

[RevolverLynx]

Fairly decent as in better than before? Sure! Fairly decent as in compared to everyone else? Not at all

Well fairly is not a bad word tho.

[enigma77]

I'll never understand people's obsession with the Ret Paladin.

[czarek]

I'll never understand people's obsession with the Ret Paladin.

They want to crusade!

[Belloc]

I'll never understand people's obsession with the Ret Paladin.

Well, it's like people's obsession with Classic. It's an old game without outdated game design and extremely poor class balance, but it scratches a very specific itch for them.

[crewskater]

Ret was never meant to be a pure dps class. It's more of a support/dps class.

[TJ]

Well, it's like people's obsession with Classic. It's an old game without outdated game design and extremely poor class balance, but it scratches a very specific itch for them.

Not like that's a very good comparison, but people prefer Classic because it is the "old WoW" with many of the fundamental features that made the game become as popular as it became. A lot of them are far superior to what retail has replaced them with (imo), but things like class balance and such are of course god awful as it is the first iteration of the game before any sort of tweaks or balancing really came into effect.

[arkanon]

So with all the UD mobs there and with tier 2.5 i was wondering if retri actually could be fairly decent dps in naxx?

Your thread title and op body of text are quite different. Viable and "decent dps" are not the same thing really in this context. Can a guild clear naxx with a couple of ret pallies? Without a doubt - no question in my mind. Can Ret be competitive outside of niche scenarios where an entire guild comes together specifically to bolster the ret? No, not really. Estimate them to deal roughly 50% of a warriors dps.

[stomination]

Not like that's a very good comparison, but people prefer Classic because it is the "old WoW" with many of the fundamental features that made the game become as popular as it became. A lot of them are far superior to what retail has replaced them with (imo), but things like class balance and such are of course god awful as it is the first iteration of the game before any sort of tweaks or balancing really came into effect.

its still god awful many expansions later.

[crewskater]

Not like that's a very good comparison, but people prefer Classic because it is the "old WoW" with many of the fundamental features that made the game become as popular as it became. A lot of them are far superior to what retail has replaced them with (imo), but things like class balance and such are of course god awful as it is the first iteration of the game before any sort of tweaks or balancing really came into effect.

From what I understand their class balancing is based around something similar to rock, paper, scissors which makes the most sense. Having all classes equally the same is dull and boring. Some classes should excel at certain things more than others.

[Erous]

Not for the warrior wannabes.

[BeepBoo]

This is all I wanted out of classic, and people were telling me "this time around, we have the maths!" as they flexed their meme builds, and lo and behold... they STILL sucked. Even the absolute highest parsing ret is incredibly far behind even mediocre "good" DPS classes.

TL;DR, ret is trash and will always be trash until wotlk at least. "But seal of blood during TB..." no. It was still garbage.

[Tojara]

This is all I wanted out of classic, and people were telling me "this time around, we have the maths!" as they flexed their meme builds, and lo and behold... they STILL sucked. Even the absolute highest parsing ret is incredibly far behind even mediocre "good" DPS classes.

TL;DR, ret is trash and will always be trash until wotlk at least. "But seal of blood during TB..." no. It was still garbage.

Retribution did fine DPS in TBC though, at least if you were Horde.

I have no idea if it was truly optimal, but you absolutely have spots in your raid in TBC for a retribution paladin as Horde without it's possible replacement being leap years above the paladin and the buffs it brings. They didn't do rogue, hunter, or warlock DPS in TBC, but they were absolutely competitive or better than a lot of the other hybrids you could choose to bring. Obviously some hybrids are better, but having a paladin that jumps between all three roles depending on the encounter is pretty useful.

Again, not talking about Alliance, but retribution being trash in TBC isn't true.

You can absolutely clear everything in Vanilla with a retribution paladin on your roster. Whatever tickles your fancy, but I can't get into the mindset of wanting to play retribution at all in classic. You literally do trash DPS and you're a glorified auto attacker with barely any button inputs. Yeah, mages and locks press a single button, but I'd take that over gameplay that can be done by having your hands literally off your keyboard for extended periods of time.