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    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    So Mother Jones' traffic was already decreasing and just continued to decrease thereafter???
    That's not what the sentence you quoted says, no. Try reading it again, since you got it entirely wrong.


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    Quote Originally Posted by silveth View Post
    Well I do. If you are going to claim protects of a platform and then are manipulating the speech on your platform, you are not a platform.

    It's the same for both sides, If you claim to be a platform and edit the content that users post, you are a publisher. You are controlling what it there. You should not have platform protection. So they should be liable for their content. A paper is, a tv show is, a singer is, a radio host is, etc.

    Why not Facebook?

    They are not acting like the phone company or the electric company, or the cable company.

    If it's illegal, then block it. Otherwise they should let the users decided what they want to write, read, and see. Full stop.

    I am kind of old fashioned that way. I will defend left and right when it comes to free speech. Even if I disagree with what they are saying.

    Like the Democrats use to be. How they decided to give that to Republicans I will never understand.
    Just. Stop.

    It's no different than kicking someone out of your own fucking home, because that person is saying racist shit to your kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silveth View Post
    I am kind of old fashioned that way. I will defend left and right when it comes to free speech. Even if I disagree with what they are saying.

    Like the Democrats use to be. How they decided to give that to Republicans I will never understand.
    Free speech hasn't really changed. We've always done it based on the first Amendment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silveth View Post
    I am kind of old fashioned that way. I will defend left and right when it comes to free speech. Even if I disagree with what they are saying.

    Like the Democrats use to be. How they decided to give that to Republicans I will never understand.
    Oh, that’s easy... because you don’t think telling people to shut up, is part of freedom of speech. You think the ability to tell a political pundit to shut the fuck up, is violating the free speech of the pundit. You see someone saying shut up, as inhibiting speech, not expression there of...

    Edit: It’s the logic of a heart broken teenager, because everyone refuses to listen to the new boy band she found. Everyone must listen!!! You can’t silence the Beeber!!! Obey!!!

    Edit 2: Hypnotoad opposes your right to change the channel...

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    Devin Nunes Cow 2.0

    During hearings today, Sen Ron Johnson tries to bully Facebook and Twitter.

    "Ron Johnson is my neighbor and strangled our dog Buttons right in front of my 4-year-old son", which was satire for Johnson allowing constituents to die from Covid



    I'm wondering, how many dogs has Johnson strangled at this point?

    Also, dont get excited Zucks, he said dogs, not strangling goats in your basement.
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    Has anyone asked a CEO for tech support on why their parents aren't getting emails or Tweets yet, or how to reset passwords?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Has anyone asked a CEO for tech support on why their parents aren't getting emails or Tweets yet, or how to reset passwords?
    You missed Sen. Karen Blackburn today. Asking the CEO of google if he personally fired this one engineer that dissed her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    You missed Sen. Karen Blackburn today. Asking the CEO of google if he personally fired this one engineer that dissed her.
    I did catch that (or at least the news of it, I can't tolerate listening to that dunce). I was just wondering if it would be like the time that Republican asked the CEO of Alphabet why his campaign emails weren't going into his parents main inbox in gmail.

    Because you know, that's what CEO's are there for, basic tech support troubleshooting.

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    How many Senator Blackburn's (Senators Blackburn?) do we really need, and why are they all terrible?
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    Looks like Facebook's bias is worse than we thought. Really shilling hard for these stupid grifters in the GOP.

    Facebook reportedly exempted Trump's family and allies from its misinformation rules to avoid accusations of anti-conservative bias.

    • Facebook has repeatedly let President Donald Trump's family members and allies off the hook for breaking its policies, the Washington Post reports.
    • Current and former Facebook employees said the company held off taking action because it feared accusations of anti-conservative bias.
    • Two company sources told the Post that Facebook removed a strike from Donald Trump Jr's Instagram account, which if upheld could have resulted in penalties.
    • Facebook has been battling allegations of anti-conservative bias from Trump and Republican lawmakers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    Looks like Facebook's bias is worse than we thought. Really shilling hard for these stupid grifters in the GOP.

    Facebook reportedly exempted Trump's family and allies from its misinformation rules to avoid accusations of anti-conservative bias.

    • Facebook has repeatedly let President Donald Trump's family members and allies off the hook for breaking its policies, the Washington Post reports.
    • Current and former Facebook employees said the company held off taking action because it feared accusations of anti-conservative bias.
    • Two company sources told the Post that Facebook removed a strike from Donald Trump Jr's Instagram account, which if upheld could have resulted in penalties.
    • Facebook has been battling allegations of anti-conservative bias from Trump and Republican lawmakers.
    Didn't we know that conservative politicians and pundits were specifically exempted from normal moderation rules, like months ago, because they kept getting flagged for hate speech and conspiracy theories?

    Or was that Twitter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerfest View Post
    This article and post are clearly from the Mirror Universe.
    Conservatives get two quarters. Liberals get ten pennies.

    Conservatives: "NOT FAIR, HE GOT MORE THAN ME! LIBERAL BIAS!"

    Conservatives have been screaming for years about unfair treatment and persecution, while at the same time openly mocking liberals who feel and actually are persecuted. When it comes to desiring fair treatment, conservatives are the most massive hypocrites I've ever witnessed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antiganon View Post
    Didn't we know that conservative politicians and pundits were specifically exempted from normal moderation rules, like months ago, because they kept getting flagged for hate speech and conspiracy theories?

    Or was that Twitter?
    Both, lol.

    Any social media company that operates in Germany has to abide by certain legislation that for some reason keeps flagging right wing posters whenever it's enforced and they simply choose not to apply the same tools to other jurisdictions because Nazi alt-right traffic is profitable and Jack and Zuck are les collaborateurs conservative sympathisers.
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    I had never heard of Dan Bongino before I read about this lol. Is this some Boomer shit I'm too Gen X to understand?

    This was of course the whole point of Conservatives constantly bleating "help help I'm being repressed" in the first place. To make companies hesitant to apply their standards equally to conservatives for fear of being accused of bias, thus giving them special treatment. That is what they have always wanted.

    Quote Originally Posted by silveth View Post
    If it's illegal, then block it. Otherwise they should let the users decided what they want to write, read, and see. Full stop.

    I am kind of old fashioned that way. I will defend left and right when it comes to free speech. Even if I disagree with what they are saying.
    If Facebook were a government agency, then the first amendment would apply. It isn't so it doesn't. This isn't the government throttling free speech, it's Walmart kicking you out for not abiding by their store policies.

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    This article and post are clearly from the Mirror Universe.
    Or you've been lied to.

    If only you'd Questioned the narrative.
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    I will never understand self-proclaimed ""marxists"", ""anti-fascists"" or ""anarchists"" who unironically support "liberals" or their ideology.
    They are the enemy of socialism, same as conservatism.

    Biden or Trump doesn't matter. The current system is frankly shit and supporting it is equally stinky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidism View Post
    I will never understand self-proclaimed ""marxists"", ""anti-fascists"" or ""anarchists"" who unironically support "liberals" or their ideology.
    They are the enemy of socialism, same as conservatism.

    Biden or Trump doesn't matter. The current system is frankly shit and supporting it is equally stinky.
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    American "liberals" are what we would consider staunch conservatives over here.

    And our politics have drifted significantly to the right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muzjhath View Post
    Because incrementalism has provided better longterm results than revolutions.
    But liberalism does not want what socialism wants. There're no increments being won. Maybe for liberalism, not socialism. At all. In fact, the opposite is true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    American "liberals" are what we would consider staunch conservatives over here.

    And our politics have drifted significantly to the right.
    Yup, same here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnusthegreat View Post
    Even so, as a private company, I don't see the problem with this. Neither does anyone that believes in free speech.
    Then they should not be protected by Section 230, so they can censor who They want without people complaining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frolk View Post
    Then they should not be protected by Section 230, so they can censor who They want without people complaining.
    Nope, that's bullshit. You are attacking their freedom of speech, and their freedom of association.

    It's their property.

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