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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-Angel of Riots View Post
    Also, why the fuck would anyone bother voting for a conservative Democratic Party? They can vote for the Republican Party if they want -real- conservatives.

    The idea that going further right is the solution for the Democratic Party just pants-on-head bad. (Or just a continuation of trying to troll the progressives within the party).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    Florida Cubans weren't;t voting Dem anyway.
    Not in these numbers... they didn’t against Hillary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eschatological View Post
    How do you look at the breakdowns tonight and think Bernie would have done better?

    Right now, it seems to be a consequence of increased turnout for BOTH sides, with Trump actually expanding his base. Attacks against Biden as a socialist seems to have worked in certain Latin American communities, and black communities, how do you think those would have gone against an actual DemSoc like Bernie?
    https://twitter.com/existentialfish/...52032000450570

    Look at these Fox News exit polls.





    Also Trump won Florida tonight, but they passed raising the minimum wage to $15 by 23 points.

    All exit polls tonight in every state are showing that people overwhelmingly support the policies Bernie ran on, which is exactly what the exit polls in the Democratic primary showed, too.

    Also Bernie had overwhelming support with the Latino community that would have prevented Trump from making gains with them. In the primary, Biden wasn't even distributing campaign information or pamphlets in Spanish or even bothering to reach out to the Latino community with literally any Spanish speaking events. His campaign literally said that the Latino vote wasn't part of their path to victory, right here:

    https://news.yahoo.com/biden-campaig...143056489.html

    There were all things the left tried to warn the Democrats about almost ~9 months ago. But of course, they never listen to us, we obviously have no idea what we're talking about and only the political pundits on MSNBC or Nate Silver of 538 know what they're talking about even though they've been absolutely fucking wrong for 2 elections now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Then explain to me why Trump didn’t run against a conservative democrat. If it’s so far fetched that a conservative democrat will win, why was Trump paining Biden as supporting medicare for all? Any idea?
    The same way he ran against a guy who doesn't;t have dementia but claimed he did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by defibrillator View Post
    Is there anything more pathetic than the hysterical, crying, beyond cowardly leftist wretch? Tell me, If it's specifically China and Russia, the two dictatorships, that will be "free reigning" over the world, than what is stopping this alleged newly-rising U.S. dictatorship from contesting them? By your personal judgement, it's the dictatorships that perform well in ruling the world. Tell me, do you ever stop to think for a second before you post any of the nonsense that you write?
    Because Trump is an idiot and Putin and Xi are not...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    Centrism vs Diet Centrism and you're not worried about the calories.
    Can you point out a single attack ad, that painted Biden as anything, but socialist? The one that called him racist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahrenheit View Post
    That’s only if Biden wins Arizona. If he loses Arizona, he needs all three. If Biden wins Georgia and Arizona, he only needs one.
    I think a lot of outlets have given him Arizona.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    I don't think Trump is gaining undecided voters. That stuff was just pandering to his base.
    And repeating to his base ad nauseum starts making others believe it to be true. It's like when people tell the same lie over and over again...eventually they start believing it. That seems to be where we are in American politics.
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    Essentially, Biden needs to win 3 of the following 6 states, WI, MI, PA, AZ, GA, NC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flower Milk View Post
    Are you looking at the actual election? Trump ran on Biden supporting medicare for all... Biden didn’t have to run ads claiming he supported it, Trump did it for him. How is the election going?
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    Time to move all the way left, lie, and attack.

    Then invest in our education system and back off on the lies and attacks when most people aren't too stupid to fall for it.

    Literally this is because we don't have a real platform.

    We are middle. Middle isn't exciting. We need to unite the left and push all the way left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flower Milk View Post
    All exit polls tonight in every state are showing that people overwhelmingly support the policies Bernie ran on, which is exactly what the exit polls in the Democratic primary showed, too.
    Biden was for raising the Minimum Wage, Bernie also supports Joe Biden. Third Party turnout in 2020 was even lower then in 2016.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flower Milk View Post
    https://twitter.com/existentialfish/...52032000450570

    Look at these Fox News exit polls.



    Also Trump won Florida tonight, but they passed raising the minimum wage to $15 by 23 points.

    All exit polls tonight in every state are showing that people overwhelmingly support the policies Bernie ran on, which is exactly what the exit polls in the Democratic primary showed, too.
    So you're telling me Florida voted for a Republican and then voted for leftist policies by a large margin.

    Its like there's an actual referendum going on, but its not against what some people think it is.

    And FL chose to open its primaries, so much for being loyal to either party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-Angel of Riots View Post
    Also, why the fuck would anyone bother voting for a conservative Democratic Party? They can vote for the Republican Party if they want -real- conservatives.

    The idea that going further right is the solution for the Democratic Party just pants-on-head bad. (Or just a continuation of trying to troll the progressives within the party).
    Ha..Why was Harris picked?
    1) Black
    2) Woman.

    How about picking someone qualified? Wouldn't shock me Harris played significant role in how people are voting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Democrats didn't make anyone vote for Trump. That rests entirely on the shoulders of his own voters. They're the ones to blame for his level of support, not Democrats.

    Your position on this is bullshit.
    Your legendary TDS is clouding your judgement once again. The Democrats put forth a dementia-riddled fool who can't remember what position he is running for or the name of the person he is running against. He is demonstrably a racist and, were it not for the protection of the corrupt media, would be getting even more thoroughly flogged than he already is in this contest.

    Let's forget all of that for a moment. The Democrats have been largely silent regarding the degenerates tearing apart major cities in this country and assaulting police and innocent citizens since March or so, and you're trying to convince people that the Democrats did nothing to bolster support for President Trump?!

    You and several others here continue to fascinate me. Not only do you repeatedly ignore common sense, but you're smug about it while doing so!

    By the way, allow me to take a moment to congratulate Senators Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham on their re-elections. May they continue to lead this country to prosperity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain N View Post
    And repeating to his base ad nauseum starts making others believe it to be true. It's like when people tell the same lie over and over again...eventually they start believing it. That seems to be where we are in American politics.
    Sure in theory, but in practice i don't think there were actually enough undecideds to sway anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inuyaki View Post
    Because Trump is an idiot and Putin and Xi are not...
    I think the shtick is more "Trump is in their pocket" rather than "Trump is incompetent".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-Angel of Riots View Post
    He did. Biden was the most conservative candidate that the Democratic Party could put forward.
    Show me a single Trump ad or argument, about Biden being conservative. Trump was the one running ads that Biden is a socialist supporting Medicare for all... how hard is that to understand? From everything seen... the destruction of western civilization... the claims of socialism... can you say that Trump ran against a conservative.
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    AP calling Iowa for Ernst. Dems don't really have a path for the Senate now I don't think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdbond View Post
    Ha..Why has Harris picked?
    1) Black
    2) Woman.

    How about picking someone qualified? Wouldn't shock me Harris played significant role in how people are voting.
    They picked her because she's a centrist candidate, ie to appeal to conservatives.
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