Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Deadite]

Just woke up early. Checked the news.

"Too close to call, Trump could win."

Really, America? Fucking really? Jesus fucking Christ guys.

Yeah i was kinda amazed it is this close. I thought Biden would romp home.

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

I wish the mods would lock this thread until the morning or afternoon. You guys REALLY need to CHILL out.

[PACOX]

I need Trump to hurry up and speak so I can take my ass to sleep.

[Flower Milk]

I don't know about that. The american voter seems to be pretty dumb and impulsive. What more does one need to say/do to convince people tRump is a disaster? If Biden campaigned with shit all over his face and drank piss on stage, the smart thing would still be to be him over the orange clown.

You don't need to convince people Trump is a disaster, they already know that, there's a 24/7 media barrage dedicated to doing that.

You need to actually give people something to vote for, like healthcare, and then use your campaign resources to reach out to underserved communities like the Latino community, and send Spanish speaking representatives or hold Spanish speaking events for them. That's literally all Bernie did to win over the Latino vote, he literally just... talked to them. Joe Biden's campaign decided they didn't need to do that, and that might cost them the election.

https://theintercept.com/2020/02/20/...latino-voters/

Or you can continue saying progressives/leftists are wrong on that, continue telling Democratic party leaders that they're right and they should keep running as a "vote against this guy" style campaign, and keep hoping that eventually maybe it will work. But then again, why not try something new or different?

[starlord]

In 1986 Ronald Reagan passed an amnesty to illegal immigrants, making the majority of the US's illegal immigrant population full citizens. RONALD REAGAN. Today no Democrat would dare touch that subject for fear of alienating right wingers. Obama pushed a very weak half-measure in the form of DACA and the Republicans crucified him for it.

Modern Democrats are, with no exaggeration, to the right of Reagan.

Precisely because they keep trying to meet in the middle with a right wing party that's further and further to the right.

As for new policy implementation, Biden says he will "modernize" the nation's immigration infrastructure, vowing, on Day 1, to send legislation to Congress that would offer a pathway to citizenship for the estimated 11 million undocumented people in the country. He's also called for a moratorium on deportations during the first 100 days of his administration.

On obtaining visas, Biden says he wants to make both permanent and temporary work visas more accessible.

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/16/91925...tion#bidenplan

[DingDongKing]

Yeah i was kinda amazed it is this close. I thought Biden would romp home.

There was little chance of that tbh. The polls have all been pretty accurate within a margin of error. FL/NC were favouring Biden in the polls but within a margin of error. Do a -3 on the averages and they’re at where they’re at opposed to be. Same for Texas. Do a +3 in favour of Trump and Yahtzee. So yeah. Anyone who expected a landslide was indulging in wishful thinking. There’s way way too many single issue voters in the US.

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

Only someone with nothing on the line talks like that.

The margin of error in each remaining state is close and/or still has large amounts of dem areas to be counted. There's also the fact that the race is 225-215 as of this post. It's ANYONE'S game. CALM. DOWN.

[Stormspellz]

We’re fucked, aren’t we?

yes even if Biden manages to hit 270, its gonna be challenged in court and long after he would be sworn in, expect "not my president" to be spammed by the right in that scenario (of course completely missing the original point)

[Saucexorzski]

I wish the mods would lock this thread until the morning or afternoon. You guys REALLY need to CHILL out.

no, i think this thread needs to stay open.

[Mormolyce]

I don't know about that. The american voter seems to be pretty dumb and impulsive. What more does one need to say/do to convince people tRump is a disaster? If Biden campaigned with shit all over his face and drank piss on stage, the smart thing would still be to vote him over the orange clown.

If Trump does win, this finally puts paid to the notion that the other side being fucking awful is enough to make people vote for your candidate.

The Democrats are going to have to start actually standing for something other than "basically a Republican, but a bit more polite".

[Kallisto]

I'd go with food. I recently learned they even deep fry goddamn pickles. Though I suppose nothing should surprise me in the frying departament after I read about deep fried butter a few years ago.

Scotland derp fries Mars bars and votes consistently left wing *ponders*

[szechuan]

Precisely because they keep trying to meet in the middle with a right wing party that's further and further to the right.

Yet Trump keeps on spreading his Propaganda and scaring voters about Socialism and how bad the Left Wing is, he even called Kamala Harris the most left wing Senator of all time, his scare tactics seem to work.

Trump also has literal cults and religious cults backing him.

[starlord]

yes even if Biden manages to hit 270, its gonna be challenged in court and long after he would be sworn in, expect "not my president" to be spammed by the right in that scenario (of course completely missing the original point)

anyone who thought this was gonna go smoothly after all the fuckery that has happened wasn't paying attention.

[Zantos]

The margin of error in each remaining state is close and/or still has large amounts of dem areas to be counted. There's also the fact that the race is 225-215 as of this post. It's ANYONE'S game. CALM. DOWN.

Thats the entire problem. It shouldn't be anyones game. Not when we have Trump as one of the contestants.

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

no, i think this thread needs to stay open.

Then anyone panicking right now or worried, please go to sleep and stop spreading negativity.

[zorkuus]

You don't need to convince people Trump is a disaster, they already know that, there's a 24/7 media barrage dedicated to doing that.

You need to actually give people something to vote for, like healthcare, and then use your campaign resources to reach out to underserved communities like the Latino community, and send Spanish speaking representatives or hold Spanish speaking events for them. That's literally all Bernie did to win over the Latino vote, he literally just... talked to them. Joe Biden's campaign decided they didn't need to do that, and that might cost them the election.

https://theintercept.com/2020/02/20/...latino-voters/

Once again, stupid country. I don't need politicians to come to my doorstep to tell me their agenda. I'm smart enough to find it out myself. Now, ofcourse it isn't a bad thing to reach out to people but americans seem to care waaayyy too much for these superficial things. No wonder you elected a clown from TV.

[Gaidax]

I need Trump to hurry up and speak so I can take my ass to sleep.

KEKW

What do you expect? There will be some memes and shit.

I, personally, totally won't mind if Trump wins, but I also know who the man is - let me guess: we are going to win bigly, dems trying to steal elections with fake media.... blah blah.

[szechuan]

then use your campaign resources to reach out to underserved communities like the Latino community, and send Spanish speaking representatives or hold Spanish speaking events for them.

beto o'rourke

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

Thats the entire problem. It shouldn't be anyones game. Not when we have Trump as one of the contestants.

Understandable completely but this year as well as the past 5-6years even when Obama was in office should tell you the IQ of the average american. Also QAnon and other raging conspiracy theories raging every election.

[Mormolyce]

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/16/91925...tion#bidenplan

You'll notice that he did not propose an actual amnesty, and his statement that DACA would become permanent strongly suggests that his "pathway to citizenship" will not be that.

This is a weaker statement than Reagan's actual policy.