Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[DingDongKing]

In the hypothical possibility... of Biden winning with a 2016 margin... Will Trump/Trumpkins accept there loss or will they basically go into Civil War mode?

I would expect serious chaos. This is far from settled.

[infinitemeridian]

I'm really hoping the progressives can get their asses organized and put on a good show for 2024.

But right now I just want that rancid jack-o-lantern gone.

I'll be happy he's out, but I don't expect the Dems to do anything except triple-down. AOC will likely run in 2024 (she'd be insane not to), but I'm not sure she would usher in the progressive vision that so many of us hope for, or even that she would be elected in the first place.

[beanman12345]

Any predictions for WI and MI?

I'm thinking 75K~ for MI and 100K~ in WI leading for Biden by the end of it all.

MI with 150k+, WI by 23k. almost all of WI is in, so I don't think he'll increase it by much.

[arandomuser]

one big difference between 2016
and i do think it is notable
is biden will hit the 50% mark on popular vote
hillary won but was still only 48% so one could make the silly argument she didnt win a plurality
but biden definitely winning a solid plurality of votes
so i guess a tiny moral victory over 2016..barely?

[Timester]

The economy is fucked beyond believe lol - we haven't even really begun to feel the effects yet.

And will to continue while the pandemic is not dealt it. Only after, confidence will jump and economy booms.

[Dhrizzle]

I’m not counting ANY chickens yet, but it’s so disturbing that the GOP base rhetoric is, ‘muahaha you might have won the Presidency. But we’re gonna ruin the country via the Senate for the next 4 years. And Americans are so silly that they’ll love us for it and give us the White House again!’ Tragedy is that it’s true...

The open contempt that Republican Senators show for the US Constitution is frightening.

[Kathandira]

I'll be happy he's out, but I don't expect the Dems to do anything except triple-down. AOC will likely run in 2024 (she'd be insane not to), but I'm not sure she would usher in the progressive vision that so many of us hope for, or even that she would be elected in the first place.

She would need an incredible running mate. The opposition from the right would be just as strong as trumps support from the right.

[arandomuser]

I'll be happy he's out, but I don't expect the Dems to do anything except triple-down. AOC will likely run in 2024 (she'd be insane not to), but I'm not sure she would usher in the progressive vision that so many of us hope for, or even that she would be elected in the first place.

i think today shows if dems run left, were gonna lose next election, even though biden wasnt left, the gop strategy that worked in florida was to run against the progressive wing and progressive ideas. i just hope gop picks someone establishment..marco rubio is a free win for them in florida based on this elections results

[josykay]

Yea but that's Trump so my guess is that unless he runs in 2024 (which he technically can) nobody from te GOP will be able to do what Trump does.
Trump strength has been getting his base out to vote for him.

He lost his Reelection bidding. The sitting president has an enormous advantage, and will most likely not come back. When was the last time? Grover Cleveland 1892? Who, however keep in mind, did win the popular vote in the election he lost. Trump will not.

[Draco-Onis]

MI with 150k+, WI by 23k. almost all of WI is in, so I don't think he'll increase it by much.

Those states only started counting the mail in ballots last night, there's really no way to know what the final count will be. Last I checked there are still 25 million votes who are still to be counted.

[beanman12345]

I'll be happy he's out, but I don't expect the Dems to do anything except triple-down. AOC will likely run in 2024 (she'd be insane not to), but I'm not sure she would usher in the progressive vision that so many of us hope for, or even that she would be elected in the first place.

As awesome as President AOC is, the socialist boogeyman almost gave trump the white house again. You just can't fix the stupid shit some people will believe.

[ati87]

In the hypothical possibility... of Biden winning with a 2016 margin... Will Trump/Trumpkins accept there loss or will they basically go into Civil War mode?

GOP keeps the Senate, in other words, it will be trench warfare.
I fully expect that McConnell will block every single bill including Covid related and funds to buy office supplies (technically he can't do this but still)

[Bodakane]

He lost his Reelection bidding. The sitting president has an enormous advantage, and will most likely not come back. When was the last time? Grover Cleveland 1892? Who, however keep in mind, did win the popular vote in the election he lost. Trump will not.

George Bush Sr.

[Blur4stuff]

I know lefties feel doom and gloom about Biden not getting a landslide, but it's important to remember that voters rejected Trump in 2016. They will also reject him in 2020 by a larger number of votes. The only reason it's so close is because of a rigged game.

Add to that all of the fuckery done by Trump and republicans over the past four years. Remove the voter suppression and the race is even further apart.

We still have a lot of work to do against the right wing propaganda machine and to help deprogram some of our fellow citizens. It can be done.

[Vago]

i think today shows if dems run left, were gonna lose next election, even though biden wasnt left, the gop strategy that worked in florida was to run against the progressive wing and progressive ideas. i just hope gop picks someone establishment..marco rubio is a free win for them in florida based on this elections results

He got at least one presidential vote in this election

[beanman12345]

Those states only started counting the mail in ballots last night, there's really no way to know what the final count will be. Last I checked there are still 25 million votes who are still to be counted.

right just my prediction.

[Bodakane]

As awesome as President AOC is, the socialist boogeyman almost gave trump the white house again. You just can't fix the stupid shit some people will believe.

If they can sell to their base that Biden, of all people, is a socialist, then they can do that with anyone. Fuck playing by fear of the Repub base.

[Timester]

As awesome as President AOC is, the socialist boogeyman almost gave trump the white house again. You just can't fix the stupid shit some people will believe.

Miami-Dade shown it last night, the socialist boogeyman grown there.

[DingDongKing]

AOC is a good 10 years from running. Not to mention she doesn’t even meet the age criteria. My hot take is the only way Dems properly start building a majority is by finding a way to combat single issue voters. Until then, it’s open season. Cos really, whilst abortion/guns/gay marriage/religion and that entire culture war hoopla is a hot button issue, nothing will move.

[alexw]

What really makes me edgy is that based upon history, Ohio has only ever voted for the loser twice, and the last time it was back in the 60's.

Waaaaayyy too close of an election for my tastes.

The support bases of the two parties are changing which means that what the swing states are is also changing.

Republicans are doing far better with uneducated older white males and females which there are lots of in Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

Democrats are doing far better with young women, non-whites, college educated whites, which there are lots of in places like Texas, Georgia and North Carolina.

So going into the future Ohio is going to always be red and it'll be Texas, NC, Georgia, etc that decide who wins the presidency.

Even longer term the republicans are fucked because the blue shifting states are worth far more electoral votes than the red shifting states.