Just to point this out, that image is selective bullshit. Progressives are the ones that won seats. Harris is the most left wing person in the executive branch, in the history of the US. Due to losses in the house, the “squad” with new members, have more control of the Democratic Party, because DNC does not have the majority without them. If democrats won seats, the squad would be irrelevant. This election is pushing Harris, with Biden as a 4 year stop gap.
The me too movement part is even more frustrating, because it was this very poster, posting articles about men being afraid to approach women due to me too movement, during the Kavanaugh confirmation. As every single reasonable person said or thought at the time, confirming him was the death of me too. If one wants to blame liberals, the only way to do so is to point to the conservatives calling the, selfs classic liberals. Conservatives that this poster holds in high regard, but does not see them spending weeks complaining that 15 year old She’ra cartoon character needs bigger “boobs”. Maybe it is liberals to blame... at least those who claimed to be liberals in 2016... note the claimed...
Don’t fall for grifters...
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
You don’t have to contrive bullshit narratives to do so. You are not supposed to accept every narrative. Your post is actually explaining disinformation. If I say Joe Biden eats babies, someone coming in to calling me a fucking moron, is not that someone being biased. Your assertion deviates from the actual accusation, to focus on the merit of accusing in general. Which is actually a subversive way to admit the initial claim has no merit...
So ah... stop it... you suck at this...
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
This comes from comments made by Democrats in 2010 when it was being passed. They couldn't get Medicare for all thru congress, they couldn't even get a public option thru congress, the ACA was seen as the closest we could get given political realities at the time.
A Public Option wouldn't be means tested, it would mean you can buy Medicare on the ACA marketplace. If you are over 65, you don't have to buy it, you just get it for free. If you are in poverty, you get Medicaid, which provides essentially the same coverages with a different billing structure in the back end.
Further, a public option would set a price and services floor. No insurer could offer less services at the same price and stay in business, because private insurers need to turn a profit. No insurer could offer the same services at a higher price, because nobody would buy it. This sets the baseline for what it should cost and what you get for your money, while building the Medicare risk pool, and driving down costs even further the more people that buy in.
I agree it's a hot mess currently. I agree that we need something like Medicare for all (with no co pays) or the NHS to actually solve the problem.
I also don't see how you sell that to an electorate that by and large has adequate employer provided health insurance you would necessarily take away. They wouldn't get a raise, because what they pay in premiums now would essentially be taken as taxes to pay for the new system. They would see a reduction in out of pocket costs, but that never seems to sway people, because people are predisposed to believe "well I'm healthy now, why should I worry about healthcare costs later? I probably won't get sick anyway".
The alternative to the ACA, right now, is to have no protections for pre-existing conditions whatsoever, the ability for your insurer to drop you at any time for any reason, no controls for costs, no controls for what a plan actually covers, and still having to pay out of pocket for preventative care up to the deductible.
The choice, RIGHT NOW, isn't ACA vs M4A. It's ACA vs zero regulation. I'd take M4A over ACA in a heartbeat, but I'll absolutely take ACA over literally nothing.
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
Very next sentence in the part i was replying to was "Theo shaming people for going with their best option at the time that's the most realistic is possibly some of the worst morality finger wagging bullshit I've ever witnessed"
Where is shaming of people in discussing and acknowledging specific flaws? People who see flaws being pointed out in their candidate as personal attack are the problem.
No, people treating bullshit as legitimate flaws, are the ones hurting the discourse. Note as an example... your posts are not listing any flaws, but are arguing to accept all flaws as reasonable. That’s treating people like they are gullible... try third graders with this shit...
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
Yes, i see any flaw as something that can be discussed in a reasonable way without seeing it as a personal attack on supporter.
Different people put different weight on them, and some don't see flaws that fit their agenda as negatives either; that doesn't mean they should deny them existing just because it breaks their narrative.
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi