For the electoral college to “change anything,” the electors the democrats appointed in the states Biden won would have to decide to vote for trump instead. And not like one or two of them; like 30 of them.
I am not remotely worried about that happening. I’m of full confidence that every democrat elector they appointed will happily vote for Biden.
“Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of all of the dead.” ~ Emily3, World of Tomorrow
Words to live by.
As much as I hate the EC, it wont. There are now 20 more votes than the 270 needed. In the span of every presidential election, only 24 electors have cast a deviant vote for the other candidate barring the death of their original nominee. Now, I would be right there with you if, say, he was exactly at 270. But they are doing a recount in Georgia and that should go to Biden also. With him being so far ahead, there is no way the EC will change things. If they did this time around, there would be a huge backlash since that would be Well over 30 EC ignoring the people.
The most alarming thing is that Trump got so many votes in the first place to challenge Biden, a sad day for the USA for sure.
In practice practice that what happens but the VP isn't not obligated to hand off the gavel and can take it back whenever they want.
The VP sets the agenda, is the decider of points of order, and interprets Senate rules.
The Senate can override the presiding officer through vote, which is where the majority leaders implied power comes from as the acting leader of their party within the Senate. So the presiding officer could set an agenda but the majority leader who gets to sit on committees can kill stuff there OR depending on how strong party lines are can overrule the presiding officer by vote.
Example someone makes a point of order. - the majority leader for instance . The VP can deny that point of order. The majority leader can issue a rebuttal by having their party mates back the majority leader with a simple majority, thus overriding the presiding officer. So you can see how the VP might get tired playing parliamentary procedures and spend them time and effort with the executive branch.
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@Skroe, @GennGreymane, and so many others that are no longer with us.... thank you for your shitposting. I hope that you can see this now, and wherever you are, smile that the orange bastard is out.
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The next four years of calling people out on their "Biden Derangement Syndrome" are gonna be fun :P
Not at this point it can't. This isn't like 2000 where a few hundred votes in a single state decided things.
Trump would need to find thousands (or tens of thousands) of votes in multiple states.
And his team is so incompetent that they're booking press conferences in junkyard parking lots instead of hotels by mistake.
People also aren’t aware that states don’t just have a pool of electors that they tap every election to hopefully vote for the person that won the state.
Each party appoints their own electors. meaning the EC vote for each state is then cast by members of the party of whichever candidate won.
Which means a large number of democrat-appointed electors would just have to arbitrarily decide to vote for Trump.
Which is not going to happen.
“Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of all of the dead.” ~ Emily3, World of Tomorrow
Words to live by.
While I doubt it happens it would be nice to see Trump have his sylvanas moment where he shits all over the republican party and his supporters.
“Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of all of the dead.” ~ Emily3, World of Tomorrow
Words to live by.
I get their sentiment. This should have been a much larger blowout to prove America is better than Trump. Instead Trump got a larger number of people to vote for him than he did in 2016 and it took several days for it to be called instead of just several hours.
I'm beyond ecstatic that Biden has won (despite the "legal" fuckery that's going to be happening in the next week or so) and we should be celebrating that, but we shouldn't forget that this election was also proof that there is a LOT of fucking work to do to both clean up his mess and try to ensure it never happens again.
It's a joyous moment, but I can't help but think of all the suffering and death we had to endure just to get to this point. So I can think of no more appropriate track to celebrate the Orange Man melting into a puddle of rage.
You Can (Not) Be President.
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