Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Corvus]

Reportedly Kushner had been telling Trump that he needs to concede.

Also two repub senators- Romney and Murkowski - have called Biden the president-elect so are acknowledging his victory. Hope more follow.

[Kellhound]

So what you are saying is Trump's win in 2016 was not even lukewarm???

Not even close.

[Zaydin]

Reportedly Kushner had been telling Trump that he needs to concede.

Also two repub senators- Romney and Murkowski - have called Biden the president-elect so are acknowledging his victory. Hope more follow.

The rest will likely only act when Moscow Mitch gives them permission to acknowledge Biden as President-Elect. They are still afraid of Trump and his cult for some reason.

[Kaleredar]

It may yet matter.

According to NBC News, not switching horses y'all, there are 44,000 votes left to count in Georgia and Biden leads by 9,000.

We'll have to see where the vote breakdown comes from district-wise. But Biden losing Georgia wont cost him the election; not with Pennsylvania, Nevada and Arizona under his belt. Trump will just simply not have lost as badly as before.

Again, achieved against TRUMP! About a third of Biden's votes were not for him but against Trump. Yeah, not really impressive.

A victory is a victory.

Trump was an incumbent. The republican party is a stubborn block of a party, and frankly generally quite gullible.

And makes your argument that "A progressive candidate would have done better!" rather senseless. If you're arguing that the republicans are a monolith that wont see reason and switch their vote so democrats should run more to the left because republicans can't be courted, why in the hell would running a more progressive candidate "have won even biglier" by a more, by your estimation, befitting victory margin? Because according to you that block of the millions of more votes that Biden should have gotten if he was more progressive or whatever also, by your logic, doesn't even exist to be had because it wouldn't matter who you run because republicans wont vote for them anyway.

[nonameelf]

The rest will likely only act when Moscow Mitch gives them permission to acknowledge Biden as President-Elect. They are still afraid of Trump and his cult for some reason.

Georgia senate runoffs most likely, but those are so far away I don't think they can wait that long.

[Felya]

What a talent for dramatization. It was a bait post intended to rile up a few people in a thread, nothing more.

Oh no, this is what Trump does to my psyche that you were looking forward to. What’s wrong? You got a couple of moth left to enjoy it... what’s up?

The rest of your post is absolute and irresponsible nonsense. The kind of blatant dehumanization you're doing by painting every single Trump supporter as comically evil is the kind of delusion that's potentially very dangerous, and frankly has likely contributed to causing real world harm over the long-term in terms of human relations.

Dehumanization of callous people? Indeed... it’s what I do...

Biden's message tonight appears to have flown past the head of every far lefty, not really surprised. Thankfully, it was Biden who won the presidency and not Bernie, who was rightfully crushed in the primaries.

No, thankfully it was Trump that lost... Bernie is going to be in Biden’s administration or at least advising policy through the campaign. Your divisive rhetoric is appreciated... late... but, appreciated... I’m glad that this is your farewell to Trump...

[Kellhound]

They can’t in the house... this is the part everyone is missing in this bitching roundabout. The “squad” gained more power, because democrats lost house seats. Regardless who it is to blame, democrats need progressives to have a majority. The alternative would mean enough justice democrats, to ignore progressives... but, not now... Biden will have to listen to progressives and has given plenty of insight that he will...

You need moderates even more to win though.

[Felya]

I hate the term mandate, no matter which party uses it. 3% margin of victory is never a mandate. Get a 15% margin and win both chambers with similar margins, and you MIGHT be getting close to a mandate.

Oh, not necessary anymore... executive orders up the ass... it’s actually more than 3%, because you are excluding how much democrats have to win by, versus how much republicans have to lose bye, to be president. No... the hurdles of the popular vote, is what dictates the mandate and Trump’s precedent... is what gets the executive order train rolling.

[kaelleria]

We have had the blue print for education for over 100 years. It’s even in practice in limited capacity in US... I experienced it... it works:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dewey

And to implement that nationwide you need to win a trifecta. Which means not torpedoing members in unsafe seats.

[Felya]

You need moderates even more to win though.

No, because the rest are moderate... they already agree... their choice is obstructionist republicans or fellow democrats. There are no moderate republicans... it’s Trump zombies and neoCons...

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And to implement that nationwide you need to win a trifecta. Which means not torpedoing members in unsafe seats.

It has to be state level... the funding is there.

[Kellhound]

Yes, achieved against a man, that convinced an entire party that he is the savior of the free world. Convinced people, that lying on polls, was somehow in their best interest.

He convinced far more than just the GOP to trust him, for two elections no less. So Biden should have easily won well over 55% of the vote. Biden was only able to move a small number of people away from TRUMP. That should be scaring the piss out of you, it does me.

[starlord]

He convinced far more than just the GOP to trust him, for two elections no less. So Biden should have easily won well over 55% of the vote. Biden was only able to move a small number of people away from TRUMP. That should be scaring the piss out of you, it does me.

well we've seen trump supporters ditch him left & right which makes me think all they really cared about was having a screeching orange ape flinging poo to amuse them.

[Ripster42]

You're doing a potshot at me while attempting to criticize my lack of maturity. The sheer level of cognitive dissonance.

Boy, talk about cognitive dissonance. He's not criticizing your lack of maturity. He's pointing out your hypocrisy. Weren't you the one who was talking about reading comprehension earlier? Ever the victim.

[Edward Wu]

What’s wrong? You got a couple of moth left to enjoy it... what’s up?

Low quality bait. Trump is trash and I'm looking forward to him fucking off.

Bernie is going to be in Biden’s administration or at least advising policy through the campaign. Your divisive rhetoric is appreciated... late... but, appreciated... I’m glad that this is your farewell to Trump...

Bernie is a complete joke and entirely irrelevant at this point. Please, for your own mental health, I implore you to come to terms with this! It's not too late to abandon cringe-tier Socialism. Based Liberalism is waiting for you.

Your divisive rhetoric

The absolute state of this hypocrisy.

Dehumanization of people? Indeed... it’s what I do...

Well I'm glad we cleared that up. Have a good one.

[beanman12345]

Reportedly Kushner had been telling Trump that he needs to concede.

Also two repub senators- Romney and Murkowski - have called Biden the president-elect so are acknowledging his victory. Hope more follow.

I doubt the Kushner thing, I've heard the entire inner circle is just feeding trump's ego as usual

But I did see the Romney tweet congratulations president elect joe biden and vp-elect harris.

[Felya]

He convinced far more than just the GOP to trust him, for two elections no less. So Biden should have easily won well over 55% of the vote. Biden was only able to move a small number of people away from TRUMP. That should be scaring the piss out of you, it does me.

That doesn’t make sense... he convinced people to give up on reality, by feeding into their worst urges. Yes, any asshole can do that to be a president, but not every asshole is callous to do it. Biden couldn’t pull the fucked up shit that Trump was pulling, thus didn’t have that very powerful ability to be an immoral Jack ass... to pull every dirty lie and every fucked assertion... while, Biden couldn’t do that...

So, no... it’s very hard to beat someone like Trump, while not stooping to his level.

[Healing Rain]

Electoral College should vote for President Trump. Only 20% of Americans voted for Biden.

[beanman12345]

Electoral College should vote for President Trump. Only 20% of Americans voted for Biden.

They can't. #dealwithit

[Kellhound]

We'll have to see where the vote breakdown comes from district-wise. But Biden losing Georgia wont cost him the election; not with Pennsylvania, Nevada and Arizona under his belt. Trump will just simply not have lost as badly as before.



A victory is a victory.

Trump was an incumbent. The republican party is a stubborn block of a party, and frankly generally quite gullible.

And makes your argument that "A progressive candidate would have done better!" rather senseless. If you're arguing that the republicans are a monolith that wont see reason and switch their vote so democrats should run more to the left because republicans can't be courted, why in the hell would running a more progressive candidate "have won even biglier" by a more, by your estimation, befitting victory margin? Because according to you that block of the millions of more votes that Biden should have gotten if he was more progressive or whatever also, by your logic, doesn't even exist to be had because it wouldn't matter who you run because republicans wont vote for them anyway.

The Republican Party has significantly less members than the Democratic Party. The majority of the US is actually independent. It is the independent vote that determines elections. Also, I said a progressive candidate would have done, at best, no worse, but likely worse.

[kaelleria]

Electoral College should vote for President Trump. Only 20% of Americans voted for Biden.

Even less voted for Trump.

He lost the popular vote twice.