? I've gone into tons of pharmacies around my area (US) and every one of them has a fridge/freezer for storing different types of medications, they also have these things called refrigerated/freezer trucks used for transporting frozen or never frozen products...I don't get the worry about it needing to be below 70 degrees or the idea that transport systems like that don't exist.
As said above speaking of minus 70 Celcius not farenheit. Which poses a new challenge as news is reporting we don't really posses such transportation on mass scale ������
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As said above speaking of minus 70 Celcius not farenheit. Which poses a new challenge as news is reporting we don't really posses such transportation on mass scale
“My philosophy is: It’s none of my business what people say of me and think of me. I am what I am and I do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. And it makes life so much easier.”
― Anthony Hopkins
Roughly the same temp as dry ice.
Got plenty of that here.
Yeah forgot in the initial post that not everyone uses Celcius as a standard measure for temperature. Transport economists on the news here mentioned that it would require developing something new to do this. Regardless it's a vaccine and we have to be brutally honest us western regions are going to get it long before anywhere else so we'll find a transport solution, African nations are going to be less fortunate.
“My philosophy is: It’s none of my business what people say of me and think of me. I am what I am and I do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. And it makes life so much easier.”
― Anthony Hopkins
You know you're jealous!
No no...two big suppliers hereabouts...although I have to concede that there's no way they can provide as much as I believe may be needed for the area alone.
Dry ice is roughly 100 below zero Fahrenheit. Can't put that in any standard freezer since it'll shut down.
Small legal note; I believe most employers can mandate getting this vaccine.
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
I'm radical, but I'll share my experience anyways.
I have not been out much, so I don't have much first hand experience at all. But here is what I can say.
April or May: went out to do a jog on a bike path. It was near a set of baseball diamonds. The fans that I could see from a distance were not social distanced at all and no masks were worn at all. One older couple was seated behind the right field fences wearing masks.
June or so: DMV for license stuff: about 50-50 on people wearing masks. The DMV did an awesome job (had to have an appointment to be there) of setting up a situation where social distancing was easy.
Went back again in around September, and it was more like 90-10 wearing masks.
My children go to my grandson's football games on Thursday and Friday nights. No social distancing, and next to no mask wearing.
Those are my observations, as well as a second hand report.
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-70 celsius is -94 fahrenheit. So this would be close to the temperature of dry ice.
Someone on a cruise ship is sick with COVID19.
No, this isn't from January of this year.
WHY THE FUCK IS ANYONE ON A CRUISE SHIP RIGHT NOW?
Putin khuliyo
Here's a little more info on storing the Pfizer vaccine, it may not be that bad: "Once the Pfizer coolers reach their destinations, hospitals or pharmacies will have a few choices of how to store the vaccine. The easiest option is using ultracold freezers, but not many sites have them. Otherwise, the facilities can stash the trays in conventional freezers for up to five days. Or they can keep the vials in the cooler for up to 15 days, so long as they replenish the dry ice and don’t open it more than twice a day."
The cooler they're referring to is a special one made to ship the vials from the facilities making the vaccine.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/12/b...ronavirus.html
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You know how humans tend to overreact? Can't wait for a permanent health theater in a post-COVID world instead of recommending actual common sense infection management and prevention tips. Just like the TSA still groping people.
cause corporate profits > lives
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yup even if they win they case they spend way more than 100 on the lawyers they have to hire.
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the vials are going to be paid for by the us govt.
They throw one out it won't cost them a dime.
They are going to be paid for the administration of the vaccine. Won't effect them if they lose a batch.
Sure the govt won't be happy with them, but what are they going to do?
Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!