Tonight for me is a special day. I want to go outside of the house of the girl I like with a gasoline barrel and write her name on the road and set it on fire and tell her to get out too see it (is this illegal)?
This series gets better with each season.
If you are wondering give it a go, don't listen to the haters.
It's been sweet to watch great star trek and great star wars in the same day. ^^
I don't think Riker was accorded as the first human host of a Trill symbiote because while he could carry one (Odan), he couldn't do so long-term as the human immune system appeared to reject the symbiote over time - eventually it would've killed them both. Adira is somehow able to host Tal long term, apparently. As for the whole host/symbiote deal, I thought it was supposed to be something of an ironic reversal. Originally as you said in DS9, there was the whole conspiracy with the Trill creating a kind of false scarcity of viable Trill hosts when in actually many hosts could be joined successfully, presumably to keep the status of joined host elite in some way. But now the situation is reversed with majority of joinable hosts having been devastated and the Trill seemingly on the verge of extinction.
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"We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see." ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead
So I am curious if anyone knows, are they planning to stay and integrate in this future timeline or is this all a passing oddysey as they 'find a way home' aka back to their timeline then zap 'Control'. As i always felt their response to control was treating the symptoms not the problem, that is to say, blowing it up.
This is an alternate timeline though, hence the 'Burn' and such or am I wrong? Given your username surely you know
So what's the assertion here? That there's no possible way something could have happened to their culture and/or physiology in the 800 years since the events in DS9 and that episode of Discovery? Was the change to the hosts' appearance between TNG and DS9 equally a slap in the face?
I'm not the type of person who likes to go digging into shows that are still running like this, so I have no idea if they've said something to this effect in interviews. But they've given no in-universe indication that they're looking for a way back to their time. It would defeat the purpose of the sacrifice in the first place...unless they found a way to do it without the ship.
It's not an alternate timeline. It's hundreds of years in the future (beyond Picard/Sisko/Janeway/etc).
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By naval tradition, anyone in command of a vessel is referred to as captain, regardless of rank; and command usually falls to the highest-ranked and/or most senior crew member present if the one duly appointed to command is no longer present.
"Science officer" is not a rank, it's a position, like e.g. "helmsman" or "chief engineer".
Saru wears 4 pips on his badge now:
I don't think that follows any sort of protocol...but seeing as they were all officially pronounced dead hundreds of years ago, and he's been commanding the ship off and on since Lorca was outed as a Terran, I don't really think it's a big deal. There wasn't any ceremony or anything when Riker was elevated to Captain for a day (pips and all) in Best of Both Worlds. And Data even took the time to put on a red uniform when he was made first officer in Chain of Command (though his rank stayed the same).
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All right, gentleperchildren, let's review. The year is 2024 - that's two-zero-two-four, as in the 21st Century's perfect vision - and I am sorry to say the world has become a pussy-whipped, Brady Bunch version of itself, run by a bunch of still-masked clots ridden infertile senile sissies who want the Last Ukrainian to die so they can get on with the War on China, with some middle-eastern genocide on the side
The burn happened in 3069. Temporal war obviously preceded it, maybe even caused it.
Do you really think the producers of the show are that stupid to add an event that doesn't fit into the Star Trek timeline?
Go pick something else to pick on. There's plenty to chose from. But the Burn is not it.
Even though it was Michael who Burnt the ham.
All right, gentleperchildren, let's review. The year is 2024 - that's two-zero-two-four, as in the 21st Century's perfect vision - and I am sorry to say the world has become a pussy-whipped, Brady Bunch version of itself, run by a bunch of still-masked clots ridden infertile senile sissies who want the Last Ukrainian to die so they can get on with the War on China, with some middle-eastern genocide on the side
The show is now in the future of previously established continuity with no competing continuity so therefore there are no other timelines to be alternate to, this is the timeline as far as canon goes. That's before I even get into how alternate timelines and timetravel are lazy as fuck excuses to stamp over continuity because you can't be arsed to check.
I think Roddenberry himself said something along the lines of "They always looked that way, you just couldn't see it yet" when explaining the Klingon change. So makeup changes aren't continuity gaffes, especially when the actor has such sensitive skin she couldn't be in the original makeup anyway. So basically, visual changes don't matter, especially when it has no effect on the story.
TOS Klingons and TNG Klingons are basically the same. TNG Trill and DS9 Trill are not. For DS9 they took the opportunity to greatly flesh out the Trill and their symbionts including make them much more widespread than "The Host" episode initially implied.
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Burnham's rank of Commander was reinstated at the end of the Season 1. Like Spock she serves as Science Officer and Executive Officer (ie First Officer).
Why you no like Voyager?!?!!
I guess the other ting is, natural actions, as in, will you remember a case from few centuries ago? nah.
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If it was an alterate timeline then no they would not be stupid, calm your pants, I did say in my very first post 'or am i wrong', i didn't truly know I just thought that was the case, I am happy to know now, as it not being an alternate future means the chances of them actually go back to their original timeline is greatly reduced!
They literally bring up the Klingon's difference in appearance in DS9...and have an entire story arc dedicated to it in ENT. I don't know how you're possibly going to just handwave away appearance changes like this while also pretending that what amounts to a retcon at worst (seeing as it could just as easily be explained by...you know...the passage of time) is this huge deal.
"Je vous répondrai par la bouche de mes canons!"
Well, yeah. They should have just left it at the tongue-in-cheek "we don't talk about that." But then again, the Matrix should have left it with "I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end, I came here to tell you how it's going to begin" thing after the first movie...and yet here we are, with another sequel on the way. Studios just can't help themselves.