Page 9 of 31 FirstFirst ...
7
8
9
10
11
19
... LastLast
  1. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeta333 View Post
    Then companies like nintendo need to pull thier head out of thier ass and have an online infrastructure that lasts. I cant play old pokemon games online thanks to nintendo using janky shit for thier services. Ill always buy physical if i have a choice due to nintendo setting an example that we cant always rely on them.

    Nintendo is actually moving to Azure and will be using some of Microsoft's infrastructure to improve their online services.

  2. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    This would be for the Switch thread, but it's also something that Sony/Microsoft are first doing with this generation and it will likely only last through the start of it rather than through the whole generation (I doubt we'll still see PS4/Xbox One releases in 2024, for example).

    But for the sake of the discussion topic, they have a physical solution: SD cards that fit the handheld console. I don't think Nintendo is looking to do away with physical games any time soon.
    Im using nintendo as an example of how online support can stop working for games later on that are digital or just online features.

  3. #163
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    And if it's not ready for 100% digital, disks will still be the preferred medium for physical releases. Why? Because they're a helluva lot cheaper than SD cards and there's still no reason to use SD cards if they're not limited by size (like the Switch is).

    We're already getting close to the digital future anyways. PC has been there for quite some time and consoles are increasingly reaching that point.
    Oh ya but the internet is holding it back, even in 10 years many places will still have data caps and slower internet so they will have no choice but to continue with physical until the gen after. Full digital on consoles is about 20 years away.
    Lead Game Designer

    YouTube Channel

    https://www.youtube.com/@Nateanderthal

  4. #164
    So much for that whole "Xbox is taking over Japan and sold out" narrative. The Series S and Series X sold a combined 22k for launch week in Japan. That is less then the Xbox One which sold 25k on it's launch week. Pretty easy to boast a sell out when you ship less consoles then your previous launch lmao. There is no traction here, sorry for the believers.
    Last edited by Tech614; 2020-11-18 at 03:16 PM.

  5. #165
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    So much for that whole "Xbox is taking over Japan and sold out" narrative. The Series S and Series X sold a combined 22k for launch week in Japan. That is less then the Xbox One which sold 25k on it's launch week. Pretty easy to boast a sell out when you ship less consoles then your previous launch lmao. There is no traction here, sorry for the believers.
    PS5 sold three times less than PS4.
    Quote Originally Posted by anaxie View Post
    Looking for Raid.
    They never found one though

  6. #166
    Banned Video Games's Avatar
    15+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Portland (send help)
    Posts
    16,130
    Aside from dmc 5, they have nothing for japan

  7. #167
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    So much for that whole "Xbox is taking over Japan and sold out" narrative. The Series S and Series X sold a combined 22k for launch week in Japan. That is less then the Xbox One which sold 25k on it's launch week. Pretty easy to boast a sell out when you ship less consoles then your previous launch lmao. There is no traction here, sorry for the believers.
    Nintendo owns the Japanese gaming market, the Switch and all previous handheld systems are just better suited to their general lifestyle there. This is why the Vita did exceedingly well in Japan but still wasn't enough to keep it going just there.
    Lead Game Designer

    YouTube Channel

    https://www.youtube.com/@Nateanderthal

  8. #168
    Quote Originally Posted by Rogalicus View Post
    PS5 sold three times less than PS4.
    Which is still a sell out and 5 times more then Series X. Nintendo is gaming in Japan, Playstation is a niche in Japan and Xbox is a non existent afterthought in Japan. Not sure why I have to break this down for you. Nobody was claiming the PS5 was going to stop the home console decline in Japan, but people where really here claiming Xbox was going to light up Japan and steal support from PS5.

    Oh and for the record based on demand and lotteries, pretty sure if they shipped 300k PS5s to Japan as they did PS4s they still would of sold every one of them. They could of also just delayed the Japan launch until Feb like they did PS4s if they cared about matching this number.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    Nintendo owns the Japanese gaming market, the Switch and all previous handheld systems are just better suited to their general lifestyle there. This is why the Vita did exceedingly well in Japan but still wasn't enough to keep it going just there.
    The Vita did not do that good in Japan, just better then rest of world. The 3DS stomped it in Japan. When you factor in handhelds are more popular in Japan and also the fact the PS4 sold more then the Vita in Japan what does that really say about Vita success there?
    Last edited by Tech614; 2020-11-18 at 04:24 PM.

  9. #169
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    Which is still a sell out and 4 times more then Series X. Nintendo is gaming in Japan, Playstation is a niche in Japan and Xbox is a non existent afterthought in Japan. Not sure why I have to break this down for you. Nobody was claiming the PS5 was going to stop the home console decline in Japan, but people where really here claiming Xbox was going to light up Japan and steal support from PS5.

    Oh and for the record based on demand and lotteries, pretty sure if they shipped 300k PS5s to Japan as they did PS4s they still would of sold every one of them.
    We are comparing results of popular console on home market (which obviously supplied more units than competition) to results of successor of imported console that sold 140k units in 7 years. They still sold out everything they've managed to bring. You can speculate what sales we could've seen if production wasn't fucked by COVID, I'd rather wait until things go to normal.
    Quote Originally Posted by anaxie View Post
    Looking for Raid.
    They never found one though

  10. #170
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    Which is still a sell out and 5 times more then Series X. Nintendo is gaming in Japan, Playstation is a niche in Japan and Xbox is a non existent afterthought in Japan. Not sure why I have to break this down for you. Nobody was claiming the PS5 was going to stop the home console decline in Japan, but people where really here claiming Xbox was going to light up Japan and steal support from PS5.

    Oh and for the record based on demand and lotteries, pretty sure if they shipped 300k PS5s to Japan as they did PS4s they still would of sold every one of them. They could of also just delayed the Japan launch until Feb like they did PS4s if they cared about matching this number.

    - - - Updated - - -



    The Vita did not do that good in Japan, just better then rest of world. The 3DS stomped it in Japan. When you factor in handhelds are more popular in Japan and also the fact the PS4 sold more then the Vita in Japan what does that really say about Vita success there?
    Well the Vita was going great in the beginning but as you said the 3DS just demolished it, you can't compete with Mario, Zelda and Pokemon with a sprinkle of Monster Hunter.
    Lead Game Designer

    YouTube Channel

    https://www.youtube.com/@Nateanderthal

  11. #171
    Quote Originally Posted by Rogalicus View Post
    We are comparing results of popular console on home market (which obviously supplied more units than competition) to results of successor of imported console that sold 140k units in 7 years. They still sold out everything they've managed to bring. You can speculate what sales we could've seen if production wasn't fucked by COVID, I'd rather wait until things go to normal.
    Hardware manufacturing for Series and PS5 has not been effected by covid at all. The bulk of these systems where made in China and their factories where back in full force long before these things started being mass produced. It took multiple days for Series preorders to sell out in Japan, which is why it got allocated the stock it did. You think MS saw some massive demand there and said "lets ship less then xbox one"? Hell the Series S is readily available in almost every EU country right now, that's stock that could of went to Japan if they thought there was a demand there.
    Last edited by Tech614; 2020-11-18 at 04:42 PM.

  12. #172
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    Which is still a sell out and 5 times more then Series X.
    Not really. If you have a stock limitation of 21k unit available the max one can sell is 21k units regardless of demand.

    Though I do expect overall for the PS to do better in Japan, simply because the Japanese prefer things made in Japan.

  13. #173
    Quote Originally Posted by Hobb View Post
    Not really. If you have a stock limitation of 21k unit available the max one can sell is 21k units regardless of demand.

    Though I do expect overall for the PS to do better in Japan, simply because the Japanese prefer things made in Japan.
    Yes, and it took 3 days post TGS for those preorders to sell out. The PS5 was sold out in minutes with 5 times the stock. Do the math on that demand genius.

    Do better is an understatement, it's like comparing Apple to Nokia. Series probably won't even reach a 1 mil install base in Japan lmao.

  14. #174
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    Yes, and it took 3 days post TGS for those preorders to sell out. The PS5 was sold out in minutes with 5 times the stock. Do the math on that demand genius.

    Do better is an understatement, it's like comparing Apple to Nokia. Series probably won't even reach a 1 mil install base in Japan lmao.
    Rabid fanboy I see
    Last edited by Hobb; 2020-11-18 at 05:57 PM.

  15. #175
    Both the PS5 and Xbox Series X/S sold less consoles in Japan than the previous generation...

    But both sold out.

    Fanboy fanboying is dumb.

  16. #176
    Quote Originally Posted by Hobb View Post
    Rabid fanboy I see
    He posts to bait and just start shit. Has been for the past several weeks.

  17. #177
    Quote Originally Posted by kaelleria View Post
    Both the PS5 and Xbox Series X/S sold less consoles in Japan than the previous generation...

    But both sold out.

    Fanboy fanboying is dumb.
    Selling out 22k systems in 3 days, the Japan takeover in full effect /s Had it sold out in minutes like the other one did you might have an argument of not being able to gauge demand but the fact it took 3 days with that limited of stock basically says the obvious: Japan still doesn't give a fuck about Xbox.

  18. #178
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    Selling out 22k systems in 3 days, the Japan takeover in full effect /s Had it sold out in minutes like the other one did you might have an argument of not being able to gauge demand but the fact it took 3 days with that limited of stock basically says the obvious: Japan still doesn't give a fuck about Xbox.
    Except both the PS5 and Xbox sold out.

    And the Xbox selling out in Japan is a marked improvement compared to how the One X and S did...

    I'm not in the camp saying they're taking over Japan for console because that's pretty much never going to happen (Sony being a Japanese company and all and MS is not), but it does mean things are improving.

  19. #179
    Quote Originally Posted by kaelleria View Post
    Except both the PS5 and Xbox sold out.
    Yes, 118k selling out in minutes and 22k selling out in 3 days.

    The demand is not even in the same universe.

    And if you weren't one of the ones claiming Xbox is gonna take over Japan then none of this is directed at you so why are you mad about it? The people that claimed this know who they are.

  20. #180
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    Yes, 118k selling out in minutes and 22k selling out in 3 days.

    The demand is not even in the same universe.

    And if you weren't one of the ones claiming Xbox is gonna take over Japan then none of this is directed at you so why are you mad about it? The people that claimed this know who they are.
    Why dont you call them out then by name?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •