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    Quote Originally Posted by vondevon View Post
    It looks like one soul in particular broke death. Any ideas of which soul that was?
    Xavius? If he could corrupt the Emerald Dream what's to say he couldn't corrupt the Arbiter? All that corruption might have went with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Zanjin View Post
    until blizzard says what caused it i will refuse to be it was Argus. we dont even know where Titans go when they die.
    That's the biggest sticking point, I agree. They are beings of Order, and according to Blizzard beings of a cosmic force go back to said force's homeland when they "die". But I'm not sure if there's a plane of Order or it's just the real world. Coupled with his soul being heavily tampered with kind of like Uther was upon death, it's very much possible that Argus or a part of him shot straight to the Arbiter, which just isn't equipped to handle a corrupted Titan soul when she judges puny mortals all day long.

    We know death broke during Legion, and we saw that it came in the form of an unusually big, unusually red soul. Unless said soul came from a place other than Azeroth, that leaves two possible answers, Xavius or Argus, and the latter seems far, far more likely.
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    /yawn... wake me when one of these actually tells us something. The idea that after 'uncounted eons' ANY single thing would break this is idiotic. After all that time, everything would have happened. But this is special! yeah, right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iheartnathanos View Post
    Argus /chars
    Isn't that a little accidental? Unless the Jailer was manipulating the Legion....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jastall View Post
    That's the biggest sticking point, I agree. They are beings of Order, and according to Blizzard beings of a cosmic force go back to said force's homeland when they "die". But I'm not sure if there's a plane of Order or it's just the real world. Coupled with his soul being heavily tampered with kind of like Uther was upon death, it's very much possible that Argus or a part of him shot straight to the Arbiter, which just isn't equipped to handle a corrupted Titan soul when she judges puny mortals all day long.

    We know death broke during Legion, and we saw that it came in the form of an unusually big, unusually red soul. Unless said soul came from a place other than Azeroth, that leaves two possible answers, Xavius or Argus, and the latter seems far, far more likely.
    argus's soul is blue. Argus only turned red when Sargeras empowered him.
    also didnt the Titans use the last of Argus's soul to force Sargeras into imprisonment?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iheartnathanos View Post
    So lame. All the people who whined about lore in BFA, you ain’t seen nothin’ yet. Shitshow imminent.
    ??? literally 1 minute clip of lore within the first hour of questing.

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    Must be Argus the Unmaker.

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    Judging by the sound I'm going to say it's a female mortal. Who died recently?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geotaku21 View Post
    Judging by the sound I'm going to say it's a female mortal. Who died recently?
    Actually in-game subtitles state that the scream was Arbiter's
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    Quote Originally Posted by vondevon View Post
    It looks like one soul in particular broke death. Any ideas of which soul that was?
    It was probably Uther bypassing the Arbiter and dumping Arthas straight into The Maw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lothal View Post
    Exciting new information. Now we know that the thing that broke it was RED!

    That changes everything, very exciting!
    yup, Sargeras stabbed her i think

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    Quote Originally Posted by Depakote View Post
    yup, Sargeras stabbed her i think
    Clearly you never actually finished the final chapter of LFR, or you'd know why that's wrong. LFR harder this expansion

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    Quote Originally Posted by dipzz View Post
    Clearly you never actually finished the final chapter of LFR, or you'd know why that's wrong. LFR harder this expansion
    Would it kill you to not be a douche?
    Also explain what that giant sword in azeroth is doing and how it got there mr. smartypants.

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    Why's no one throwing in KJ? Argus's "soul" was used to bind imprison Sargeras, so it's not Argus or Sargeras. But Kj IS actually red, and is a being of pure hate. He also died right before they got to Argus and it would explain why they had KJ die when he did, where he did in a place where he can't ressurect

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    Quote Originally Posted by Depakote View Post
    Would it kill you to not be a douche?
    Also explain what that giant sword in azeroth is doing and how it got there mr. smartypants.
    Because Sargeras put it there prior to be imprisoned? yeah clearly never played the game

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    Quote Originally Posted by dipzz View Post
    Why's no one throwing in KJ? Argus's "soul" was used to bind imprison Sargeras, so it's not Argus or Sargeras. But Kj IS actually red, and is a being of pure hate. He also died right before they got to Argus and it would explain why they had KJ die when he did, where he did in a place where he can't ressurect

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    Because Sargeras put it there prior to be imprisoned? yeah clearly never played the game
    So what you're saying is that because he was imprisoned the sword went away.. Strange really since that's what the entirety of BfA was about getting rid of which we still haven't done.

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    Has the same red glow as venthyr effects. denathrius does support the jailer so who knows maybe this is where he started it. many npcs eventually do specifically say that denathrius forced/caused the drought, maybe its not just compounded in revendreth but started here initially

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    Quote Originally Posted by Depakote View Post
    So what you're saying is that because he was imprisoned the sword went away.. Strange really since that's what the entirety of BfA was about getting rid of which we still haven't done.
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    If we're to go purely by the colour of whatever that was, it could be Denathrius at play - or Argus the Unmaker. Remember, Blizzard have stated that Mythic encounters are the ones representative of the lore fights, and Argus was a glaring shade of red by the time we struck him down. What if his soul - a World Soul corrupted by demonic power - was too much for the Arbiter to handle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verbatim View Post
    If we're to go purely by the colour of whatever that was, it could be Denathrius at play - or Argus the Unmaker. Remember, Blizzard have stated that Mythic encounters are the ones representative of the lore fights, and Argus was a glaring shade of red by the time we struck him down. What if his soul - a World Soul corrupted by demonic power - was too much for the Arbiter to handle?
    just going to ignore that big glaring sword in azeroth huh..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Templar 331 View Post
    Xavius? If he could corrupt the Emerald Dream what's to say he couldn't corrupt the Arbiter? All that corruption might have went with him.
    lol please no. He's so low on the scale. He only corrupted the Emerald Dream with help from others.
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    yeh but lava is just very hot water

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    Wasn't it speculated that the Machine of Death broke before the Nightmare raid?

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