If a proto human says "Hey, I think cultivating plants so that we may eat them and have a stable food supply" then there will always be someone else who views that practice with contempt and fear. Not everyone agrees what the proper course towards progress among humans is optiomal, but we do know is that conservatives will always be there to hamstring efforts to make the lives of everyone in a society better.
Of course, I'm sure you'd like to present some philosophical dilemma along the lines of, "is it really progress?" or "is it really good for human society as a whole?" among numerous other philosophical questions. You could potentially even argue that humans would be better off if we still lived in sparsely scattered villages dotting the land, each village with its own language and culture. Most would disagree, but it's still something you COULD argue, just like you COULD stab your foot.
But yes, if the great American empire falls, we can very much so point towards a cause to it. It's hard to continue down the path of rapid leaps forward in science, technology, health, and education when there is a political party that opposes all of those things and simply wishes to amass wealth for themselves.
2014 Gamergate: "If you want games without hyper sexualized female characters and representation, then learn to code!"
2023: "What's with all these massively successful games with ugly (realistic) women? How could this have happened?!"
You stated an example, as proof that Abbot was the sole reason. The issue is what you are claiming your example shows:
The issue is not lack of clarity, which you emphasized and used to deride, in the bold... this is gaslighting at its most obvious...
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Uhm... from urban dictionary:
Patrickism: A statement of unadulterated stupidity, often implying that the speaker is an incel or is struggling with a mental illness.
That’s doesn’t fit in what you said... how does calling the sole reason democrats changed, an incel struggling with mental illness, change the lie you posted?
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
The hilarious part is that pretty much every thread you make is you projecting your own personal views of what the "left" is. Through your eyes it seems to be some very sinister, untruthful, and incompetent organization. However when it comes to actual policy and action we see they're anything but. Perhaps if you stop reading from your own fan fiction and join us in reality to discuss actual happenings, others will stop giving their opinions to you?
2014 Gamergate: "If you want games without hyper sexualized female characters and representation, then learn to code!"
2023: "What's with all these massively successful games with ugly (realistic) women? How could this have happened?!"
Listening to Experts isn't a policy. It doesn't mean anything? Who are we listening to? What are the actual plans?
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Again, you are locked into the thinking that its a political gradient between positions, as if ACA is just a lesser version of Universal Health Care, which is a bit like arguing a Lizard is just a moderate version of a Bird, when I am trying to tell you those are separate animals.
On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.
The CDC, WHO and professionals that have been dealing with this shit for decades, like Fauci. Think of it like you are buying a toy... are you going to listen to experts that say it’s dangerous to your children or politicians with a stake in the toy company? Now, apply the same logic you use for buying toys, to a pandemic.........
Birds evolved from Lizard... your argument is literally that ACA would have evolved into a universal coverage. Didn’t you claim to be an anthropologist assistant? How can you make this mistake?Again, you are locked into the thinking that its a political gradient between positions, as if ACA is just a lesser version of Universal Health Care, which is a bit like arguing a Lizard is just a moderate version of a Bird, when I am trying to tell you those are separate animals.
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
As I said, you gave a pass to Trump for a year of doing nothing about the virus...but you're already up Joe Biden's ass to have a full strategy worked out when he isn't President yet. He hasn't had much time to meet with the existing Covid Task force yet...because Trump was blocking the transition.
Listening to experts is not a complete policy... but it's certainly better than ignoring them entirely. You listen to the experts. You create a plan based on the information you've received.
It is a health care system, sure, just like a Cow and a Squid are both animals of some type. But they are not the same thing. One produces ink another milk, if I want milk I'm not getting it from a squid.
The ACA is a private marketplace, a glorified mandate to buy a shitty substandard product and feed profits. An NHS is a health service, the two are not actually at all the same thing. Nor is an ACA just a watered down NHS. That is patently ridiculous.
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Listening to Experts means nothing, Again, who are these experts? What are they demanding be done? Why? Are they trustworthy?
On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.
They have spent their lives studying the subject and have no political motivation. I take it your claims of being a teacher’s assistant in anthropology was a lie?
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No, I like your previous comparison more... it’s like a lizard to a bird... ACA would evolve to universal coverage, which is why you hate it.
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
These people fundamentally misunderstand science. They think that scientists work only to prove themselves right, and that some vast form of nebulous funding is at their beck and call to personally enrich them so long as they get right results. So they assume that these scientists have incentive to lie to appear “correct.”
They don’t understand that scientists don’t exist to prove points, they exist to find answers... that in science, an experiment that fails to produce an expected result is valuable, even as valuable as a positive result.
I believe they may think of it as such because, from their own myopic sort of view, they only know that the less academically rigorous jobs the have and do pay them to do their job well with a strict set of expected outcomes, for risk of firing if they get something “wrong” on the job. So they assume that scientists, too, must operate like this: that scientists have some big boss that divvies out money to bring back expected results that fits the “company line,” with that company line being some nebulous boogeyman about vaccines or global warming or some other concept they don’t understand.
Historically, the scientists that “lie” aren’t the ones at universities or government researchers. They’re the ones hired by corporations whose intent is to sell a product. (asbestos, DDT, lead, fossil fuels, etc) Which is the directive of the corporation, not “big science.”
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“Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of all of the dead.” ~ Emily3, World of Tomorrow
Words to live by.
Yeah and I'd say the bolded part is an extreme understatement. For example with a scientific theory like GTR literally thee only reason to keep making scientific tests is to prove GTR false so that physicists can find an anomaly that gives them new information. Proving things right in science is fundamentally pointless because you don't gain new knowledge by gathering more supporting evidence and confirming something that you already think is true.
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Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.