It's a start, I wish we could just go back to just dropping some gold the instant I hit cap though. Feels bad to have to "earn" the same thing over and over again.
It's a start, I wish we could just go back to just dropping some gold the instant I hit cap though. Feels bad to have to "earn" the same thing over and over again.
I never understand in these threads why the anti flying crowd get so upset about flying being in the game. If you don't want to fly, then don't?
The only thing it changes for you if other people fly is World PvP, in which case I think WM should disable flying anyway. The point of Warmode is to pvp, not to fly past each other.
So outside of war mode, flying makes zero difference to a player that doesn't want it. You can still do everything on a ground mount as always. So why so vehemently deny people that want to play a different way to you, when you can still play the way you want if they get the play style they want?
12 of 1 vs a dozen of the other.
We don't KNOW that the total amount of work will be less, and its important to remember that, even though things look better on the surface. Just because it's renown instead of reputation doesn't necessarily mean it still won't be something of a grind. The hard lock time gating is still there.
Don't get me wrong, though. I'll be very happy if 9.1 and later patches actually has a bunch of content that uses flight. And if the unlock is actually simple and easy, then that's all to the good as well.
All I'm really saying, when you get down to it, is to not just ASSUME that it's better just because you only have to deal with one larger pile of shit instead of a bunch of smaller piles.
This attitude is appartently abundand in the playerbase. This is a GAME and everyone is generous enough to spend money and time there - they should be thankful for that because otherwise they'd have no job. They have no logical, reasonable justification for forcing me to spend the time I spend there in a certain way. That's just bull. As long as I have fun, how is it their business to MAKE me have fun in a certain way. It's just developer vitriol - we make you do this - because we can - for no better or other reason.
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That's self-contradictory. People won't cap because it has caps? Then why have caps in the first place? Also, the caps are trivial to reach if you play the game.
And it also doesn't contradict my point; you cannot grind Renown. Specificially because it is capped and the mechanics are set up such that grinding is impossible.
Again, you are not "earning the same thing over and over again". Each expansion you are earning flying for that expansion. Once you unlock it, you never lose it. Never once did you have to reearn flying anywhere.
Flying needs to be a reward for doing content, not handed to you based on the number next to your avatar.
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It's strange.
It's almost as if people want to use their favorite mounts and not be force to use mounts they don't like because they are ground only
Strange.
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They have a big justification. It's their game. They get to set the rules. YOU should be thankful they made this game because without them there is no WoW, It is their business because it their game, not yours. It's just your entitlement because you think you and only you should dictate how the game should play.
It's their game. Their rules. Don't like it? Don't spend your money on it.
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They aren't going to stay on the ground when flying is available because doing that gimps them and makes things take longer. Nobody is going to stay on the ground when you can fly and get things done faster. So, no they can't play the way they want if flying is in the game.
Because when Blizz design content they have an idea of pacing, basically how long they want people to play each day and how many days they expect people to play to get the main rewards.
If flying is in the game they have to pace the game around it, so a player tackling content from the ground may only complete half or less of the content, meaning they will fall behind and may not be done with the content by the time the next part is released.
There's also the idea of "opportunity cost," even if doing something is more fun the slower way, the content is made less satisfying if you have to choose slower progress and force yourself to miss out on rewards. This is also why players complain when content is too easy instead of using weaker gear or removing their best spells from their bars.
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As game designers their job consists of making people have fun a certain way. That's why we don't get a button to one-shot whole raids or the ability to log in, instantly ding the level cap and receive all the best loot in the mail.
Honestly the worst part to me is how their ground only zones serm to be so much worse than their flying-immediately zones. No hate for the stories told therein, but many of the new zones seem like disjointed DnD mini-campaign areas stitched together in an only mildly coherent fashion.
I prefer to have a genuine world, disallowing the devs to hide poor work is one of the best aspects of flying, as even from the ground you'll notice it heavily, it's just less easy to identify without that bird's eye view.
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its the other way around buddy,they were generous enough to make the game and give you the privilege to spend time and money on it,its THEIR game,THEIR vision,and you will play the way THEY intended it,its THEIR property not YOURS,if you disagree with their vision and intent,they arent forcing you to play
also wile i agree with you to some extent,the problem with flying is the cat is out of the bag,unless they remove flying this wont be fixed,they make amazing zones and they want you to experience them before you can just fly over them
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We don't know. But it seems plausible to expect 9.1 or 9.1.5.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, I kinda dont feel like playing Shadowlands until I know when flying comes...It such a shit fest without. Im a heavy grinder of achievements and so on, and since Legion Ive just tailored my gameplay to pre-fly and post-fly...Aka only doing content fly wont speed up that I can do before flying etc. So no explore zones achivements, no odd world achivements etc.
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Are we also going to call people stupid for pretending there can't be any catch-up mechanics for renown?
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Yeah, but what blizzard states isnt what some non-dev who likes tossing out insults at anyone who disagrees says.
Obviously, what the person who is not a blizzard rep says is what goes.
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Pot. Kettle?