Third Party Let's finally talk about it.

[Doctor Amadeus]

So my Question is, outside of the 2 party system in the U.S, Democrat or Republican, what party in your experience closer matches your political alignment?

For me I am ok with Practical Government big or small, I am less concerned with size as much as function, if the government is bigger, than great accountability and auditing by the general populace.

Government's role in my opinion is to provide national defense and supplement infrastructure, roads, zoning, education, criminal education, regulation of industry environment including healthcare.

The closest Party Might be the Independence Part of Minnesota, which really doesn't exist anymore, so for the most part no.




And maybe more importantly, IF there isn't a political party to that reflects your core values, what kind of party would you propose, and what should it look like?

I would personally like to see a Liberal Party separate from the Democratic Party IF such a Party could ever exist.




I recognize this thread might be a bit U.S Centric so PLEASE by all means if this doesn't relate please include your own country or nation and if it U.S politics does effect you anyway please feel free to share your opinions on Political Parties.

[Egomaniac]

A third party will never get anywhere with the EC in place.

[kasuke06]

I wanted to vote third party, but their stances generally read as "that's okay, that's a neat idea, hmmm that one's a bit weird, holy fucking shit no." So, spite vote for Yang.

[Xeones]

There are only 3 parties I know about Green, Libertarian, and... I think it's the tax payers party? Or did they change their name? There is some local party which has changed names one was about the constitution and the other was about taxes I can't remember which is the old one and which is the new one.

Anyways I know Libertarians the best while they seem rational Libertarian policies are actually fairly terrible. At best Libertarianism can be described on a scale of lazy at best and at worst it's anarchy.

Green I should like the idea of but I find myself not liking the party any time I look into them.

Then the local party is radical radical right wing extremists that despite naming themselves something about the constitution (at least at some point) actually want to destroy it.

[october breeze]

You'd better add Trump party there as well. He has already carved out a good chunk of GOP into an extremist cult. I am sure if he doesn't go to jail somehow, he will run again in 2024 under a new banner or party name. So, there you go, there is your third party you were looking for!

[jonnysensible]

The rent is too damn high

[Cthulhu 2020]

Remove the first past the post electoral style and a third party might work.

Until that is accomplished, no reason to talk about anything, it'll never work with our current voting system.

[Machismo]

The Electoral College will never let this happen.

[Redwyrm]

It's not just the EC that would have to go. You would also have to change the way we vote to a rated voting system. Where we vote for multiple candidates in a Tier'd list.

[postman1782]

It's not just the EC that would have to go. You would also have to change the way we vote to a rated voting system. Where we vote for multiple candidates in a Tier'd list.

I think there is a couple states that are starting to do this tiered voting system.

[Felya]

Bring back the ‘Know nothing’ party!!! The most honest political party in history...

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And also... who is going to implement it? The Democratic Party and Republican Party are never going to open up the stage for third parties.

Write it down kids... 1992 is never going to happen...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Perot

[Felya]

Remind me again how many terms he served as President. Or how many EC votes he won.

Nm, I remember now. The answers are the same! Zero.

He was on the stage during the debates, without having democrats or republicans let him.

[Saltysquidoon]

The Democratic Party and Republican Party are never going to open up the stage for third parties.

The legislative arm of government has effectively no real form of review when the executive is drawn from their ranks and the judicial is subservient to it (because not being mad up of politicians it actually has integrity).

[Shadowferal]

Bring back the ‘Know nothing’ party!!! The most honest political party in history...

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Write it down kids... 1992 is never going to happen...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Perot

That just emphasizes the fact that money is the real controlling interest. And that should point everyone in that direction; its not the EC, it's not how people vote, it's always about financing campaigns.

[Felya]

I don’t think they meant the debate stage, more the actual national stage where they matter.

What’s the metric? He was on the ballot in every state... participated in debates... was leading national polling in June of the year and ended up with nearly 20% of the popular vote. That reform party in the OP... guess who that is...

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Seriously?

Yes... super serial...



Reality... scary... sorry...

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That just emphasizes the fact that money is the real controlling interest. And that should point everyone in that direction; its not the EC, it's not how people vote, it's always about financing campaigns.

Oh, totally... look at out current president... but, EC is part of the mechanism that enables them... again... look at our current president.

[Draco-Onis]

A third party will never get anywhere with the EC in place.

Pretty much this not to mention both parties have put gigantic barriers in place after a few close calls so that it never happens again. A third party candidate would not even be able to get on the TV debates let alone have the funding to overcome the obstacles.

[Felya]

No are you seriously going to cling to that as a to distract from how awful the 2 party system is for America?

Quit it with the babying shit.

No, I am going to call out people who don’t know what the fuck they are talking about, for being nothing, but shells with empty platitudes. You are distracting from the reality of why the system is shit, by talking nonsense that can easily be refuted. You think that helps your cause?

Lmao please stop.

Please start...

[JohnBrown1917]

No option for any socialist parties?

[Felya]

No option for any socialist parties?

Solid point... I’ll continue...

What about the communist party?

[Felya]

Easily refuting what? That the two party system is bad for America? Or that democrats and Republicans dont really play nice with the small fry?

Start what? Acting like you? No thanks.

That a third party does not rely on democrats or republicans and that a third party has explicitly shared a stage with the two major parties in recent history.

Start making an argument that relates to anything I say, instead of just empty pletatudes. I already called it out, you just confirmed it. Want to see how empty of a shell your posting exemplifies... Quote me saying a single thing about the two party system being bad or good in my posting. Go ahead... what are the odds you will respond with nonsense that has nothing to do with my posting? 100%... I’m even calling it out to your face, because you can’t resist.