How can you write off an xpac that literally just launched?

[Malania]

It is a solid expansion, probably the best since Pandaria.

Cataclysm. Pandaria was a write off for adding cuddle bears and making us fight our unhealthy emotions as unbalanced children playing a fantasy video game.

[Unholyground]

Cataclysm. Pandaria was a write off for adding cuddle bears and making us fight our unhealthy emotions as unbalanced children playing a fantasy video game.

Pandaria fixed a lot of the systems that made Cata meh though, most people liked it.

[D3athsting]

Bfa sucked from the first time you set foot in boralus tbh

[Itori]

I enjoyed the story quite a bit, im one of the rare few who actually read quest text and dont bum rush through the main quests, and they did an outstanding job on it and made me feel immersed.

That being said the gameplay is trash. Their disgusting scaling makes lvling in pve just feel like a chore, going from wiping out a large group of mobs at lvl 55 and then having to go to barely surviving 1 at a time at 58 is rediculous.

The endgame is still the same boring bs that its been since legion, my hopes that it would change and be interesting were dashed, and torghast is just a cheap filler content that had its design ripped from ffxivs palace of the dead and heaven on high with bonus buffs thrown in.

[God Save The King]

I like Shadowlands and haven't heard anything negative about it in game. All the complainers seem to be online and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they weren't even playing the game, just complaining. There's lots on this forum alone who haven't played in several years but keep up on the news and complain about every little thing in WoW. I think the negativity you're hearing largely comes from the people who love to come and troll players.

[ThrashMetalFtw]

Even in BC and Wrath, you could tell the systems that were in place during the leveling process as well as pretty early upon reaching max level. There was a lot to do (double the dungeons for example) and even professions had something to aspire towards. You had new races or class with corresponding new zones. Raids were linear...you didn't just do the latest raid.

Shadowlands objectively has A LOT more to do than WotLK once you reach max level (as did BFA and Legion, if that wasn't obvious). WotLK was also the expansion that started making old raids obsolete. Yes, you raided Naxx to gear up for Ulduar, but once ToC was relased, you could and would skip Naxx and Ulduar with the ToC 5man and Emblem gear, same thing with skipping ToC once ICC was released and the ICC 5mans made ToC obsolete.

The only expansion that had less "stuff to do" than WotLK once you hit max level, was WoD, with Cata being compareable to WotLK since its systems and game design was just a more polished version of WotLK.


If you hated WoD for it's "raid or die" philosopy, you would also hate WotLK once the nostalgia wears off, as the character progression is extremely similair once you hit max level. This is coming from somebody who has been actively playing a Blizzlike (+ harder raids) WotLK private server in the downtime before SL, and is still raidlogging now after SL.

[Malania]

Pandaria fixed a lot of the systems that made Cata meh though, most people liked it.

Yeah, but like every expansion it added it's own issues that got fixed in WoD.

I didn't mind Cata. I liked the difficulty of the dungeons as it reminded me of TBC heroics.

[Donald Hellscream]

Because they didn't like it at all at any point since the announcement, and because they don't like it, they won't give it a chance.

[EyelessCrow]

Because this is the first expansion since I started playing wow that I was so bored I ended up going and playing different games...by day 2 of launch. I haven't even played it since Friday of last week, it is so completely dull and irrelevant to the WoW storyline to me I just don't care. I got burned by WoD, it feels kinda like that to me but at least that felt like WoW, this does not, it's not happening again. Hell the only reason I'm here and saw this post is out of habit of clicking on the shortcut I have for MMOChampion on my break. I think WoW is over with for me, it has been getting long in the tooth and I think the only reason I've played so long is habit and fomo.

Shit, even the "week 2 what to do" on the front page seems incredibly short.

[rogoth]

I understand BC and WotLK widowers are passionate, I know, I started in BC.

But the xpac just launched. So with that being said, how are people writing off Shadowlands?

Like, please keep your emotions to yourself, I just need something concise and detailed.

Its been a couple weeks, isn't it a little premature to call this a "bad" xpac?


Thanks and please, lets keep this clean and respectful. I mean try.

if you're willing to sift through the vitriol from players who are just salty and look for the legitimate feedback, A LOT of players could give a concise evaluation based on past experience and educated guess, because if the past 3 expansions is anything to go by then it's a strong bet that this expansion is also going to be subpar and poor overall.

[Kokolums]

I understand BC and WotLK widowers are passionate, I know, I started in BC.

But the xpac just launched. So with that being said, how are people writing off Shadowlands?

Like, please keep your emotions to yourself, I just need something concise and detailed.

Its been a couple weeks, isn't it a little premature to call this a "bad" xpac?


Thanks and please, lets keep this clean and respectful. I mean try.

if you go to mcdonalds 5x and recieve poor service each time, you start writing them off even when a new mcdonalds opens nearby and don't even give them a try.

[ro9ue]

People have different opinions man.

[erifwodahs]

I understand BC and WotLK widowers are passionate, I know, I started in BC.

But the xpac just launched. So with that being said, how are people writing off Shadowlands?

Like, please keep your emotions to yourself, I just need something concise and detailed.

Its been a couple weeks, isn't it a little premature to call this a "bad" xpac?


Thanks and please, lets keep this clean and respectful. I mean try.

Who said it's bad besides the same 20 people on this forum who quit "this trash game" every week and whatever topic you would bring up they will find a way to say that blizz/wow is trash? Take few more sources, blizz video comments, reddit, fan made videos/comments or reviews. So far it's way more positive than anything else. I can't see this better than Legion was but some people can and I see why.

[Roship]

Seems like a great expansion to me so far personally, minus some nit-picky things about the maw, like no mounts. Im sure once mythic raid opens up it'll be even more of a blast.

[NihilSustinet]

I understand BC and WotLK widowers are passionate, I know, I started in BC.

But the xpac just launched. So with that being said, how are people writing off Shadowlands?

Like, please keep your emotions to yourself, I just need something concise and detailed.

Its been a couple weeks, isn't it a little premature to call this a "bad" xpac?


Thanks and please, lets keep this clean and respectful. I mean try.

i think shadowlands is fine.

[erifwodahs]

It is a solid expansion, probably the best since Pandaria.

Legion fan here
I dismissed MoP because of my ignorance, tho I would like to try it now - MoP Classic 2028! Not the gardening quests tho.

[deenman]

As of right now, there's nothing to do. Gating and throttling content shouldn't be a thing.

it 100% should,players have proven since legion that they need protecting from themselves,this early expansion gating is good to let players level and experience the classes at their own pace,not force players to rush from second 1 to login to cap and get in the raid,like we did in wotlk

[oplawlz]

Cataclysm. Pandaria was a write off for adding cuddle bears and making us fight our unhealthy emotions as unbalanced children playing a fantasy video game.

The gameplay in pandaria post the first major patch was fantastic - to your point it was the theme that was terrible, and for many gameplay > all.

[KOUNTERPARTS]

I understand BC and WotLK widowers are passionate, I know, I started in BC.

But the xpac just launched. So with that being said, how are people writing off Shadowlands?

Like, please keep your emotions to yourself, I just need something concise and detailed.

Its been a couple weeks, isn't it a little premature to call this a "bad" xpac?


Thanks and please, lets keep this clean and respectful. I mean try.

So you can't fathom why people would feel that way? Why they would feel compelled to not only come to MMO-Champion but literally any other place to voice their disdain just only a week after the expansion launches? The same trend that happens after every WoW expansion launch?


All of that, and the irony of whining about the whiners.

[Bigbazz]

I understand BC and WotLK widowers are passionate, I know, I started in BC.

But the xpac just launched. So with that being said, how are people writing off Shadowlands?

Like, please keep your emotions to yourself, I just need something concise and detailed.

Its been a couple weeks, isn't it a little premature to call this a "bad" xpac?


Thanks and please, lets keep this clean and respectful. I mean try.

A friend of mine bought the expansion pack like as soon as it was made available to preorder, has since decided it's shit and his character hasn't progressed past Icecrown. Some people have just had enough of the game and nothing will make them play it, no matter how good. I think SL is off to a pretty good start, don't have any strong feelings however.