I feel like Frost DKs are one of the worst specs in the game right now even at 175 ilevel.
In fact last night I started to level my Ret Paladin and she was already doing more damage at level 50 in greens than my DK LMAO!
I feel like Frost DKs are one of the worst specs in the game right now even at 175 ilevel.
In fact last night I started to level my Ret Paladin and she was already doing more damage at level 50 in greens than my DK LMAO!
175 ilvl is low for creating bold statements
Sorry but i would argue it is a player problem. Looking at current sims and from what i can see of my DK guildmates with 181 ilvl and 182 ilvl frost is doing fine. It's not the pack leader but definitly not lacking.
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Simcraft: https://www.simulationcraft.org/reports/PR_Raid.html
Yea, it's basically a L2Play issue. Perhaps you should go read a basic guide? Or go unholy, all you have to do is pop your CDs whenever they are up. Since so much of Unholy's power is tied into essentially passive play (Pets, DoT, and AA), even if you are fairly fail you can still do good DPS as Unholy.
Sims are a pretty decent representation of how a class could perform. Wowhead has really good curated content. I would check that out!
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Played Frost at the start, was hoping to go for the 2H Oblit build, but that just isn't gonna work for M+, which will be what I am going to do a lot of the time. I would go for Breath with 2H, but that is essentially gimping myself.
So instead of twirling sticks around, I will again play Unholy, the spec plays better then in BFA and synergizes well with my Covenant (Venthyr).
If Blizzard decides to give the 2H Frost an actual chance, I'll try it. For example they could apply the damage buff from 2H for Obliterate onto Frost Scythe. That would go a long way. But I am not holding my breath.
Frost is fine, but you wanna hold onto 1 handers if you pick them up. Going back dual wielding might be the play for PVE early on until more gear is acquired. Dual wield gets carried a bit by having Razorice and synergizes better with some of the talents.
Two hand confidence could be applied to PVP, but I wouldn't be super confident with it in PVE.
Last edited by msdos; 2020-12-07 at 06:35 PM.
Frost is fine if you are Dual Wield (2-hander Frost isn't worth it) and do Breath of Sindragosa build.
Unfortunately.
Frost DW is fine, no need for buffs.
Imagine playing a class for 10 years of 2h being absolutely fundamentally intrinsically dogshit and expecting the blizzard would 'get it right this time'.
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Why would frost need a buff?After looking over the newest simcraft they aren't doing that bad and they have really good aoe.The sim shows that frost is only around 500dps lower than unholy.Yet has way better sustain aoe than unholy.So i don't see a problem.
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Unholy the top dps spec right now only sims at around 500 to 600 more single target than frost.Frost aoe sustain aoe is actually much better than unholy.Maybe do some simcraft to see why you aren't doing that good a dps.ALso you can't compare damage at 50 to 60.Ret does really good dps yes but it levels out and actually has lower single target than frost dks, they sim very close though.Hate to say it but They are not bad at all.They are above average for the dps they can sustain over 4k single target.Hate to say it but you need to put in some work first before you just start qqing in the forums.
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I have switched over to frost and have some meh one handers and still do very good damage.You keep saying its not the player its the gear.... well i am here to tell you that you are 100% wrong.
Frost is absolutely fine. DW BoS still rewards skill with amazing numbers, on-demand burst that cleaves, very satisfying gameplay (if you're good). The only problem is still having to get PvP trinket with on-use str for maximum efficiency.
If swinging oars like a baboon is more of your thing, then 2H is not that far behind for ST (especially if you're Kyrian) and pretty good for M+ (if you're Night Fae). 2H Oblit has decent sustained damage, potentially interesting options with Glacial Advance (it's alive after 4+ years of waiting!.. kinda... sorta...)
Or if you really just care about DPS and are ok with sleeping while playing your character - go Unholy. The spec is so easy and passive you can watch Netflix while doing top damage. It's gonna get nerfed though most likely. Numbers are a bit overtuned.
I doubt Blizzard will do any PVP tuning in the near future. They're likely going to wait until everyone is geared up, and then see how it goes from there.
9.1 is the most likely to be the PVP tuning phase.
BM hunters are also in dire need of PVP buffs because they trash at PVP.