How Great Vault works?

[caramel0rar0]

Guys, I swear I have been reading a lot about this. I checked Icy Veins, WoW Chakra, Youtube and also Google'd about it a lot, but everyone says different things. I guess only one has reason, so I have still a big doubt about this.

Let's imagine these runs:

3 2 4 6 5 7 5 3 3 6

So, the first square of the chamber would be a 3, ok.
The second one would be a 6, right? Even though previous runs were lower, right?
Also, the third square of the chamber would give us a +6 item, right? Even though we have some bigger and lower runs between the fourth and tenth run.

Am I right? I swear I have been gathering information but, as told, one says one thing and the other one says another thing....

I guess even now, people still don't know how it really works.

[Dracullus]

1st choice - item level of your best run
2nd choice - item level of your 4th best run
3rd choice - item level of your 10th best run.

What is here that you don't undestand?

So in your case it would be: M+7 reward, M+5 reward, M+2 reward. Of course you can do more than 10 dungeons with higher M+ to improve your situation.

[ellieg]

Guys, I swear I have been reading a lot about this. I checked Icy Veins, WoW Chakra, Youtube and also Google'd about it a lot, but everyone says different things. I guess only one has reason, so I have still a big doubt about this.

Let's imagine these runs:

3 2 4 6 5 7 5 3 3 6

So, the first square of the chamber would be a 3, ok.
The second one would be a 6, right? Even though previous runs were lower, right?
Also, the third square of the chamber would give us a +6 item, right? Even though we have some bigger and lower runs between the fourth and tenth run.

Am I right? I swear I have been gathering information but, as told, one says one thing and the other one says another thing....

I guess even now, people still don't know how it really works.

Does not matter the order. And you can do more than 10.

So it would really look like 7 6 6 5 5 4 3 3 3 2

You could then do an 8, and your weekly rewards would shift to 8, 6, 3

[GoMage]

Do the same as you have done in your calculations but put the runs in difficult order
7 6 6 5 5 4 3 3 3 2
So the items would be from
7 - 5 - 2

[caramel0rar0]

Does not matter the order. And you can do more than 10.

So it would really look like 7 6 6 5 5 4 3 3 3 2

You could then do an 8, and your weekly rewards would shift to 8, 6, 3

Do the same as you have done in your calculations but put the runs in difficult order
7 6 6 5 5 4 3 3 3 2
So the items would be from
7 - 5 - 2

Waaaoh, interesting. Understood bros, thanks for that answer. That clarifies my mind!

[huth]

Am I right? I swear I have been gathering information but, as told, one says one thing and the other one says another thing...

No, and you likely misread quite a bit. Order your runs by difficulty, then discard all after the 10th(only your ten best runs count). The quality of your options will depend on the first, fourth and 10th entry of that list for the first, second and third option.

It doesn't matter whether the run was done in-time, only what difficulty you completed.

In your example, the list would be ordered as 7, 6, 6, 5, 5, 4, 3, 3, 3, 2, causing the rewards to be based on levels 7, 5 and 2.
If you now do a +5, the list would change to 7, 6, 6, 5, 5, 5, 4, 3, 3, 3, and you third option would improve to 3.
If you instead did a +6, the list would change to 7, 6, 6, 6, 5, 5, 4, 3, 3, 3 and both your second and third option would improve.
If you instead only did 10 +2 and then did a +10, your first option would then improve to +10, but your other two options would remain as +2 since you need another 3 and 9 runs at higher than +2 to improve them, respectively.

[Belmorn]

This I understood , but what about the combination of pvp / raiding ? Can you only select ONE box ( in authors case the 3 m+ items box ) or can you select on item per ROW ? So one from m+ , one box of raiding and one box of pvp ?

[ellieg]

This I understood , but what about the combination of pvp / raiding ? Can you only select ONE box ( in authors case the 3 m+ items box ) or can you select on item per ROW ? So one from m+ , one box of raiding and one box of pvp ?

1 overall per week. Doesn't matter if u did 1 m+, or 10 m+ 10 raid bosses and full pvp. Youll end up with 1 piece of loot. Only the amount of options changes

[huth]

This I understood , but what about the combination of pvp / raiding ? Can you only select ONE box ( in authors case the 3 m+ items box ) or can you select on item per ROW ? So one from m+ , one box of raiding and one box of pvp ?

You get to select one reward per week total.

[AwkwardSquirtle]

This I understood , but what about the combination of pvp / raiding ? Can you only select ONE box ( in authors case the 3 m+ items box ) or can you select on item per ROW ? So one from m+ , one box of raiding and one box of pvp ?

1 item. Doing PvP only increases the number of choices. Everyone gets one item, guys who do everything just get more choice.

[zbik]

can also pick anima,if all the options are terrible,though i havent seen in the UI where that would happen.
maybe you talk to an npc or something to skip vault pick for anima?

[caramel0rar0]

can also pick anima,if all the options are terrible,though i havent seen in the UI where that would happen.
maybe you talk to an npc or something to skip vault pick for anima?

Damn, didn't know that, although Anima is not that worth it, I think.

[Stormwolf64]

Isnt it quite easy? you get 1 item with the itemlevel based on which window you reached the highest with. 200, 213, 226 or something like that.

[Azadina]

No, and you likely misread quite a bit. Order your runs by difficulty, then discard all after the 10th(only your ten best runs count). The quality of your options will depend on the first, fourth and 10th entry of that list for the first, second and third option.

It doesn't matter whether the run was done in-time, only what difficulty you completed.

In your example, the list would be ordered as 7, 6, 6, 5, 5, 4, 3, 3, 3, 2, causing the rewards to be based on levels 7, 5 and 2.
If you now do a +5, the list would change to 7, 6, 6, 5, 5, 5, 4, 3, 3, 3, and you third option would improve to 3.
If you instead did a +6, the list would change to 7, 6, 6, 6, 5, 5, 4, 3, 3, 3 and both your second and third option would improve.
If you instead only did 10 +2 and then did a +10, your first option would then improve to +10, but your other two options would remain as +2 since you need another 3 and 9 runs at higher than +2 to improve them, respectively.

Not quite true from what I saw. Timed 6 last night, and the vault showed first option as 6. Ok, all good. Well, we did 7 afterwards which we failed to time, and the first vault option was...drumroll...6, not 7.

[Ragnarohk]

How is this system better than Justice/Valor Points? In all honesty I don't really see the "improvement"

[caramel0rar0]

Not quite true from what I saw. Timed 6 last night, and the vault showed first option as 6. Ok, all good. Well, we did 7 afterwards which we failed to time, and the first vault option was...drumroll...6, not 7.

Bug may be? Anyone can explain?

[theLavs]

Bug may be? Anyone can explain?

everytime i've run anything I have to relog to get the Vault to update, so perhaps it was just visual and they needed to relog

[zbik]

it doesnt update instantly, my guess was its using the scoreboard per server,which cycles on some timer
i did 2/2/3 and failed 4,instantly went to vault and it wasnt showing id done a total of 4 runs yet
reloged,ate,it updated

[huth]

How is this system better than Justice/Valor Points? In all honesty I don't really see the "improvement"

It's a completely different and unrelated system. Of course you don't.

Compare it to the Legion/BfA weekly chest, not Justice/Valor.

[schwarzkopf]

1st choice - item level of your best run
2nd choice - item level of your 4th best run
3rd choice - item level of your 10th best run.

Close - however:

1st choice : gear appropriate to best run
2nd choice : gear appropriate to lowest run of your top four runs
3rd choice : gear appropriate to lowest run of your top ten runs.

In general - gear appropriate to lowest of your top N runs (N=1,4,10).