How Great Vault works?

[huth]

Close - however:

1st choice : gear appropriate to best run
2nd choice : gear appropriate to lowest run of your top four runs
3rd choice : gear appropriate to lowest run of your top ten runs.

In general - gear appropriate to lowest of your top N runs (N=1,4,10).

For all practical purposes, those are the same thing. You're pretty much just repeating what Dracullus said.

[schwarzkopf]

F You're pretty much just repeating

Pretty much repeating what the Great Vault says

[huth]

Pretty much repeating what the Great Vault says

No, Dracullus was doing that. You're just repeating Dracullus.

[schwarzkopf]

You're just repeating Dracullus.

Incorrect - what he said was incorrect.

What I was doing was saying what the great vault says:

[caramel0rar0]

Incorrect - what he said was incorrect.

What I was doing was saying what the great vault says:

Yeh, you repeated what he said. xD

[schwarzkopf]

you repeated what he said. xD

Nah - what he said was different, what I said is what is in the guild vault - hope that corrects your error for you.

[ReVnX]

Not quite true from what I saw. Timed 6 last night, and the vault showed first option as 6. Ok, all good. Well, we did 7 afterwards which we failed to time, and the first vault option was...drumroll...6, not 7.

It takes some time to update. I can confirm that you do not need to time them.

[huth]

Incorrect - what he said was incorrect.

What I was doing was saying what the great vault says:

4th best and worst of top 4 is the same thing. You're just repeating Dracullus.

[Nevcairiel]

Not quite true from what I saw. Timed 6 last night, and the vault showed first option as 6. Ok, all good. Well, we did 7 afterwards which we failed to time, and the first vault option was...drumroll...6, not 7.

This is a display issue in the UI. Untimed runs count just like they did before.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wo...ugged/773356/3

[Ragnarohk]

I'vr been doing +5/+6 and ran a +3 at the beggining of the week. I think I ran a total of 6 Mythic+ across al difficulties

That +3 is punishing because I won't have time to clear more mythics this week to water it down.

Not sure how I feel about it

[Twdft]

I'vr been doing +5/+6 and ran a +3 at the beggining of the week. I think I ran a total of 6 Mythic+ across al difficulties

That +3 is punishing because I won't have time to clear more mythics this week to water it down.

Not sure how I feel about it

How does it punish you exactly?

[Ragnarohk]

How does it punish you exactly?

Well, maybe I don't understand the system. But I won't be offered a +6 item, rather a +3 item.

[ellieg]

Well, maybe I don't understand the system. But I won't be offered a +6 item, rather a +3 item.

If you ran 6 mythics like u think, and most were +6 or +5, with 1 +3, then it would look like this :
6 6 6 5 5 3. So your first option in vault is based off of your +6 which is 210 ilvl. Your 2bd option is based off of your 4th best which is +5, which also happens to be 210 ilvl.

[huth]

Well, maybe I don't understand the system. But I won't be offered a +6 item, rather a +3 item.

You will be offered a +6 in your first option. If you only ran +5 or better outside of that single +3, your second option will likely be +5. For the +3 to matter, you'd have to do another 4 runs for your third option to be a +3.

Each option has its reward level determined independently. You don't just get the worst one.

[Dracullus]

4th best and worst of top 4 is the same thing. You're just repeating Dracullus.

I think you are here long enough to know it's not worth trying to explain anything to this guy.

[Belmorn]

So it’s just ONE item if you completed 10 mythic+ or 3 ?

[glowpipe]

I still see people to this day saying "i can't help my friends do lower keys cause they ruin my reward"
No, no no no. And no.
If you want the max reward for your third choice. which is key lvl15. You need to do 10x level 15 keys. If you help your friend to do a 5 and thats the reward you get in the weekly for the 10 bracket/third choice. Well, then thats the highest reward unlock you did. You never had 10xlvl15 keys to start with. you had 9x15 keys and you did a 5 to push it to 10 keys. Which will now result in a lvl 5 reward.

If you want the highest reward. You need to get it and when you first get it, nothing you do can lower it

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I'vr been doing +5/+6 and ran a +3 at the beggining of the week. I think I ran a total of 6 Mythic+ across al difficulties

That +3 is punishing because I won't have time to clear more mythics this week to water it down.

Not sure how I feel about it

Wrong. You never watered anything down. The +3 is not punishing you, its the HIGHEST you DID. You didn't have anything higher that could have been watered down

[Kikazz]

Waaaoh, interesting. Understood bros, thanks for that answer. That clarifies my mind!

1st reward - Your Highest Key
2nd Reward - Lowest of your Top 4 Keys, so 10, 10, 10, 8, this reward would be an 8
3rd Reward - The lowest of your top 10 Keys, so if you did a 2, 2, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 6,7, 7, this would reward a Lvl 2 piece.

[Temp name]

So it’s just ONE item if you completed 10 mythic+ or 3 ?

You get one item, but you get to pick between 3

[Azerate]

The whole confusion around the great vault is probably an answer as to why Blizzard doesn't often introduce slightly more complex reward structures. It's baffling how people are getting so lost over such a simple system.

Hell, even if you did not understand the system, any sane person should be able to understand that a system that would punish you for running lower keys with friends would make no sense. Or a system that punishes you because you run a +3 as your 1st or 4th dungeon in a row while you can actually easily clear 15s... It doesn't take a rocket scientist to conclude that you get rewarded based on your highest key clears. Also, when has it ever mattered to TIME the key to get the reward? We are now after like 5 years of mythic+, and you never actually needed to time the 10/15 to get the highest reward. In previous expansions, people were getting keys from friends and using those to just slowly slug through a +15 in 2 hours with 50 deaths to get the max chest upgrade. Why would this suddenly change now? Why do we now need "confirmations" that you don't need to time the key to get the relevant reward?

People keep asking for quality of life complex updates to the game, but anything remotely more complicated enters the game, half the community is just confused to no end.