So about Twisting Corridors?

[lordjust]

Twisting corridors will be a lot harder because of the torment debuffs. Soulforge debuff isloose 1% HP every 5 seconds and it stacks with every floor and higher layers start with a higher stacks. On Layer 8 I think you start with 4 stacks on floor 1 so once you get to the boss on floor 6 you'll loose 10% HP every 5 seconds. I don't know if the stacks start new after 6 floors or only the debuff changes but with the scaling from floor to floor mobs gain a lot of HP and damage.

Normal Torghast was a joke on beta and twisting corridors was actually hard. On live now after they buffed (+40% HP and damage) and nerfed (-26% HP) Torghast, it's harder than normal Torghast was on beta so I would imagine that twisting corridors will actually be a challenge.

[Knight Meta]

yeah and give up on the biggest upgrade, that will be a must have to enter any serious raid or mm+ group? sure!!!

do you have any other idea like that please?

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make that dust drop from other content and for sure I'll never set foot again in that shit.

Yeah no. Anyone who currently struggles with Torghast (Which should be reduced to about "Not a single soul" once the nerf goes live) are not people in the bracket that NEEDS legendaries for content. These are players who does not have a bar to entry anywhere. And even if they SEE that bar and run face first into it instead of sidestepping it by not trying to only join "FULL RAID CLEAR ILVL 220+ LINK ACH, HAVE GOOD RIO" groups (which they have no reason to join) that bar can be completely ignored by starting your own group or god forbidd, join a guild or community aimed to your level of play.

[Lord Pebbleton]

Every other week. There's four different events on a half-week rotation like the minor N'zoth invasions.

Fixed.

10chars

[Queendom]

Unlike the main tower (Which btw, no one is holding you at gun point to do, if you don't enjoy the tower, just don't enter it)

This is the same as saying "if you enjoy not being remotely competitive then don't craft legendary". Of course you can live without it, but only if skip most part of the game.

Twisting Corridors is suppose to give ONLY Cosmetic Rewards. A Pet at 2, a toy at 4 which lets you look like a Mawsworn, a title at 6 (Spirestalker) and a Mount at 8 which lets everyone RP as Worgens in the Maw. I mean; everyone gets to mount again.

I hope it stays that way so I can completely ignore it.

[Yarathir]

the entitled warfront babies got what they wanted

blizzard continuing to design the game for people that don't like MMOs

People who don't like having their success be based on RNG don't like MMOs?

wtf

[Zolaris192]

People who don't like having their success be based on RNG don't like MMOs?

wtf

that is not what i said

people that cry that every class/spec can't be expected to stroll into torghast and solo it every time don't like MMOs

imagine walking into classic and crying "why can't my rogue provide mara runs"

[vian]

No matter that. 6 floors takes about an hour, even if you get some decent powers, 18 floors is going to take ages.

An hour? Wat?

[Pebrocks The Warlock]

It's not supposed to be challenging

Where did you get this from?

[Grimbold21]

Frankly, I don't see an issue with the tower being hard content. I believe it was this week pre-nerf I tried to do Upper reaches level 7 and couldn't get past floor's 2 boss. That's fine with me.

A day or two later, I went in - I think the nerfs were already in place - got a great combo of powers and breezed through it all.

The "it's annoying", "it's hard" is just a testament to people not knowing what they want.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Frankly, I don't see an issue with the tower being hard content. I believe it was this week pre-nerf I tried to do Upper reaches level 7 and couldn't get past floor's 2 boss. That's fine with me.

A day or two later, I went in - I think the nerfs were already in place - got a great combo of powers and breezed through it all.

The "it's annoying", "it's hard" is just a testament to people not knowing what they want.

Less hard more of an outright wall. No matter how skilled you think you are, you'd still be outdamaged.

[Bloodyleech]

No matter that. 6 floors takes about an hour, even if you get some decent powers, 18 floors is going to take ages.

An hour for 6 floors, where one of them is just a vendor and one has the endboss?.. Where do you life that you take 55 minutes for 4 floors? In this hour, I clear both L8 wings after the nerf...

[Krakan]

Frankly, I don't see an issue with the tower being hard content. I believe it was this week pre-nerf I tried to do Upper reaches level 7 and couldn't get past floor's 2 boss. That's fine with me.

A day or two later, I went in - I think the nerfs were already in place - got a great combo of powers and breezed through it all.

The "it's annoying", "it's hard" is just a testament to people not knowing what they want.

Your average wow player isn't very successful at the game but desperately wants to blame the community for their short comings. The tower robs them of this so naturally it creates a lot of friction and unlike the mage tower it is arguably tied to the progression of your character.

Your average wow player cannot bare such an affront to themselves.

[Kehego]

Your average wow player isn't very successful at the game but desperately wants to blame the community for their short comings. The tower robs them of this so naturally it creates a lot of friction and unlike the mage tower it is arguably tied to the progression of your character.

Your average wow player cannot bare such an affront to themselves.

You deserve a cookie.
Its okay though, mark my words. In about a year, when torghast is facerollable funtime activities, it'll be heralded as one of the best things ever.
Just like mage tower.

[Grimbold21]

Less hard more of an outright wall. No matter how skilled you think you are, you'd still be outdamaged.

But I don't find that necessarily problematic.

What is going on here? Are we trying to bring back wotlk heroics?

If instead of pulling one or two groups of mobs, I have to CC one and pull carefully, then so be it, that's absolutely fine with me. "But it takes soooo long". Let's not pretend this wouldn't be the same crowd that cry at having nothing to do when their respective game activities leads them to that flawed conclusion.

[Krakan]

You deserve a cookie.
Its okay though, mark my words. In about a year, when torghast is facerollable funtime activities, it'll be heralded as one of the best things ever.
Just like mage tower.

I honestly don't known if it will. Warfronts were not remembered fondly...

[Kehego]

I honestly don't known if it will. Warfronts were not remembered fondly...

I mean 1) warfronts were last month so its pretty fresh and 2) mage tower was hard for a while, causing people who were shit at the game to aspire to the mage tower appearances. Mage tower never got nerfed, people just got 2 tiers of gear.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

But I don't find that necessarily problematic.

What is going on here? Are we trying to bring back wotlk heroics?

If instead of pulling one or two groups of mobs, I have to CC one and pull carefully, then so be it, that's absolutely fine with me. "But it takes soooo long". Let's not pretend this wouldn't be the same crowd that cry at having nothing to do when their respective game activities leads them to that flawed conclusion.

Except it does take too long and I'm speaking about Torghast not any heroic dungeons or anything like that, nobody is making the comparison but you.

[Krakan]

I mean 1) warfronts were last month so its pretty fresh and 2) mage tower was hard for a while, causing people who were shit at the game to aspire to the mage tower appearances. Mage tower never got nerfed, people just got 2 tiers of gear.

True but mage tower stayed somewhat challenging though it was based on spec some did have it utterly free. Torghast now is just... dead. Never mind outgraring it you can mindlessly crush it at 171 ilv now.

[Razorice]

I don't see the point of these nerfs when we're literally just started gearing up. Gear ARE the nerfs and people who are complaining about high difficulty of Torghast are just shit at their class/role. Simple as that.

[h4rr0d]

An hour for 6 floors, where one of them is just a vendor and one has the endboss?.. Where do you life that you take 55 minutes for 4 floors? In this hour, I clear both L8 wings after the nerf...

Dunno, last week it took me about 45 minutes to clear one layer 6 clearing everythinf