For those who need the gear, are you seriously doing all the stuff this week?

[clevin]

I'm don't do all of the but the point is that having all of that available gives people options. The problem is the people who have no self-control and feel they are 'forced' to do all of it. They're not.

Pick and choose what you want. Do that.

[chiddie]

20-25 hours of playing is not a lot per week. I definitely play more than that, but I choose to spend that time elsewhere.

Doesn't mean you have to do all the things you listed. Half of this is basically straining yourself for 200 ilvl stuff, which I can't be bothered doing myself, despite having a couple pieces below that.

I'm probably gonna do like half of the normal raid and maybe 2 heroic bosses. Did the torghast run already. That's it for me. Rest I'm just leveling some alts and farming mounts

20-25 hours x week is more or less 3 hours per day.

Maybe you’re all students in here but 3 hours per day is quite a LOT of playtime.

[Merlunie]

20-25 hours x week is more or less 3 hours per day.

Maybe you’re all students in here but 3 hours per day is quite a LOT of playtime.

If you don’t have kids and you can’t squeak out 2 hours of free time a day you should reevaluate imo.

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Yeah maybe if you do nothing but play video games.

If you can find 2 hours of free time a day you’re doing something wrong.

[Delekii]

You need 5x timewalking for a ilvl 200 piece. That's like 5 hours.
You need 4 m+ runs to at least give yourself a couple options in the Great Vault. That's like 4 hours, more if you pug and wipe.
You need Ulduar timewalking for ilvl 200 gear. I dunno what that is, 1-2 hours?
Full clear normal CE, maybe 5-6 hours
Full clear heoric CE, maybe 5-6 hours
Maybe mythic CE first boss, another hour.
Torghast / covenant stuff, 1-2 hours
PvP / arena, more hours there

That's around 20-25 hours of play this week. Who is seriously doing all of this?

Nah, I decided during the raid this week that it definitely isn't worth the pain anymore and quit. Feeling light today.

[Kokolums]

If you have 2 hours per day to spend, you'd just run rated BGs until you have 220 gear across the board. Then start on mythic CN. The rest is pointless.

[kamuimac]

If you don’t have kids and you can’t squeak out 2 hours of free time a day you should reevaluate imo.

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well if you leave aside everything to play computer games 2 hours a day each day you too should re-evaluate your life tbh .

14 hours of gaming a week is crazy high amount for fully functioning (good work/social life balanced) adoult person .

[Vampyrr]

You need 5x timewalking for a ilvl 200 piece. That's like 5 hours.
You need 4 m+ runs to at least give yourself a couple options in the Great Vault. That's like 4 hours, more if you pug and wipe.
You need Ulduar timewalking for ilvl 200 gear. I dunno what that is, 1-2 hours?
Full clear normal CE, maybe 5-6 hours
Full clear heoric CE, maybe 5-6 hours
Maybe mythic CE first boss, another hour.
Torghast / covenant stuff, 1-2 hours
PvP / arena, more hours there

That's around 20-25 hours of play this week. Who is seriously doing all of this?

Got some of the times wrong 5x timewalking was closer to 1-2 hours Ulduar is closer to 5 hours

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If you have 2 hours per day to spend, you'd just run rated BGs until you have 220 gear across the board. Then start on mythic CN. The rest is pointless.

Not enough available conquest to get full 220. Maybe like 1-2 pieces tops

[Arainie]

Failed the instructions on post 1.

Question was are you going to do any of this?

The question was:

Who is seriously doing all of this?

And no, I don't really need the Ulduar gear. Normal takes me 2 hours to clear. Timewalking takes me less than 2h if I can be arsed to do it. The poll gives me no option to be selective so I'm not answering it. I'll be 215 equipped by the end of the week even without any lucky heroic/mythic raid drops.

This game does not require 25 hours of gearing per week, not even close to it.

[kamuimac]

Read the thread title. Read the poll question. See if anything strikes your mind.

no we are not doing everything

but Ulduar is for sure priority to do for majority of playerbase as 200 itlv upgrades are huge - especially that a lot of them have bis stats for a lot of classes - making this gear more powerfull then 213 with bad stats from hc raids and gear form m+ .

especially that blizzard f...ed up and didnt nerf droprates in tw - and it drops 5 pieces for 20 people. which is crazy since its much eaiser then normal CN and drops a lot of bis loot on top of it.

without doubt they will fix it next time.

[cparle87]

I get the perspective of people who claim everything is easy, that Heroic raid ilvl CN is almost obsolete, that getting a group and doing a M +15 is "ez", same for 2000 pvp rating... I just wish there was some empathy the other way around - that no, not everyone has 2 hours per day nor has the skill to consider those tasks a breeze. And by empathy I mean, a different response than "you should quit if you can't do xyz, you're too bad at the game".

Some of this would be nice, too, yeah. After the last covenant world quest upgrade I noticed that my world quest rewards were 174 now. I made a comment in general chat that this was pretty chill that they were keeping outdoor content. I got slammed by like a dozen people ranting at me about how I could consider anything that low to be relevant. I pointed out that if you don't like pvp and don't do any organized group content that the gear is 3 ilvls above what you can get in random heroics, and just got attacked again.

[Azerate]

20-25 hours x week is more or less 3 hours per day.

Maybe you’re all students in here but 3 hours per day is quite a LOT of playtime.

I'm 30 and I have a family and a job. 3 hours a day is an amount of time that anyone can devote to their hobby if they so desire.

[chiddie]

I'm 30 and I have a family and a job. 3 hours a day is an amount of time that anyone can devote to their hobby if they so desire.

3 hours a day is an insane amount of spare time to dedicate to a hobby, whatever the hobby is.

[Nerevar]

Not doing mythic dungeons this week at all due to shitty affixes. The rest - for sure.

[Lont]

I'm 30 and I have a family and a job. 3 hours a day is an amount of time that anyone can devote to their hobby if they so desire.

During a normal working week, 3 hours is an insane amount of time for someone with a family to play. Over the weekend, fair enough.

Sleep: 8 hours
Work: 8 hours
Spare time: 8 hours (not including commute, cooking & feeding, washing clothes, socialising, family time, homework, personal hygiene, child hygiene etc.)

That 8 hours of spare time diminishes incredibly fast. I find that I have around 1-2ish hours to myself and even then it's not really enough time to get anything major done until the weekend, especially as I try to squeeze raiding in there 3 times a week. I've literally had to write myself a weekly to-do list, allocate time to it or sacrifice sleep. The weekends don't really open that much time as I have 2 children to entertain.

Personal circumstance, obviously, the game isn't and shouldn't be tailored to me. However, I do think this expansion isn't friendly to the older audience even when I am only 26!

[Rucati]

3 hours a day is an insane amount of spare time to dedicate to a hobby, whatever the hobby is.

I don't get this.

Let's assume you wake up at 7am, go to work at 8, get home at 6pm, you need to eat dinner, say it takes an hour. You go to bed at 11pm for your full 8 hours of sleep which obviously everybody gets. That's 4 hours from the time you finished dinner to the time you went to bed.

And considering most people probably get home from work earlier, cook/eat dinner faster, and go to bed later, that's even more time. So if you have roughly 5 free hours a day and you aren't spending them on hobbies what are you doing? Seems like spending 3 hours a day on hobbies is perfectly reasonable to me.

[DeltrusDisc]

That wasn't your question. You listed a whole bunch of things and then asked in your next post if anyone was doing any of it. The answer is yes.

Check again - he did ask if people specifically were going to do /all/ of it.

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All i'm doing is the maw every day and i raid the rest of my in game time.

Just the Maw? Por que?

[chiddie]

I don't get this.

Let's assume you wake up at 7am, go to work at 8, get home at 6pm, you need to eat dinner, say it takes an hour. You go to bed at 11pm for your full 8 hours of sleep which obviously everybody gets. That's 4 hours from the time you finished dinner to the time you went to bed.

And considering most people probably get home from work earlier, cook/eat dinner faster, and go to bed later, that's even more time. So if you have roughly 5 free hours a day and you aren't spending them on hobbies what are you doing? Seems like spending 3 hours a day on hobbies is perfectly reasonable to me.

There are too many variables to consider.

It depends on where you live, the job you have and also the family you have.

At least in Italy, having 3 hours per day to invest in whatever hobby is a lux (unless you live alone ofc).

[Razorice]

As I don't need any 200ilvl gear, I'm not doing any TW.
I do my 10 weekly 13-14 keys, Torghast, arena and HC Raid.

[Mystikal]

Not only am I doing pretty much all the list (except PvP, due to not enough time and not particularly enjoying it), but the game isn't dropping me anything, and my GV has given me nothing but dupes for my two best slots for three resets in a row. This current loot system is horrible.

[Merlunie]

well if you leave aside everything to play computer games 2 hours a day each day you too should re-evaluate your life tbh .

14 hours of gaming a week is crazy high amount for fully functioning (good work/social life balanced) adoult person .

I run a small business and own a home. I have much more than 2 hours per day of free time. Can't go to bars due to COVID. Spend time with my friends on the weekends because a lot of them have children. Wife and I eat dinner and watch TV before bed. House upkeep and chores don't take long. I take the dogs for walks every other day because we have a big back yard.

Nope, I think you got it wrong man. I think it gaming is your hobby that's fine. Again if you can't find 2-6 hours of free time to do whatever you want a day, you should re-evaluate.