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    Quote Originally Posted by Muxtar View Post
    More feminisim please, as if we don't have it more than enough in real world.
    FYI, 'guy' doesn't necessary mean male person, as 'man' doesn't always mean 'male human'.
    But f*ck logic, feminism can't wait!
    noun
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    a man.
    "he's a nice guy"

    It's literally the definition being a man...but fuck logic just so you can hate on women!

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    I want Human Shamans

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    Well since the original topic has already been debunked hard (what a shock), I would like Shaman for Thalassian elves actually. Blood elves could learn it from their greenskin allies, while the Ren'dorei could revisit the secret techniques of the Twilight's Hammer's dark shamans and, as is usual with the Ren'dorei, refine them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Utrrabbit View Post
    I have something better.

    Blood Elves should not be a race.
    Something even better, elves should not be a race

    Quote Originally Posted by Venziir View Post
    A warrior is, litterally, just a strong angry guy with a sword..
    i mean, sure, but elves generically, in almost all setting/all the time, don't fit this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    They can be Rogues, however, who use energy as a resource and not mana.
    Ah yes, how could I forget that turning invisible is a purely martial skill, it takes years of training, no magic at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narwhalosh Whalescream View Post
    It doesn't make sense thematically.
    And your statement makes no sense at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnaught View Post
    Ah yes, how could I forget that turning invisible is a purely martial skill, it takes years of training, no magic at all
    You made the distinction about classes that use mana - but Rogues don't use mana, they use energy. Neither Hunters nor Monks use mana either, but Blood Elves can also be those classes. Not to mention that Warriors can also reflect spells, cause minor earthquakes, project shockwaves, and even transform into a colossus; which sound like magical abilities in and of themselves.
    "We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see." ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unbelievable View Post
    Actually, they are commonly used as guards.
    They, also, do not draw upon the light. Blood Knights do.
    I was thinking of warding of magic and removing magic
    The Alliance gets the Horde's most popular race. The Horde should get the Alliance's most popular race in return. Alteraci Humans for the Horde!

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    Blood elf warriors are what you get after blood elf paladins suffer too much brain damage. So unless Blood elves can't get brain damage...yeah, blood elf warriors should definitely exist.
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    Anybody can pick a pointy ass stick up and start stabbing shit. OP is full of shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kithelle View Post
    noun
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    "he's a nice guy"

    It's literally the definition being a man...but fuck logic just so you can hate on women!
    I guess you didn't see any old movies or read old books where 'guys' is used as 'group of people', women included.
    And btw, I don't hate on all women, I just make laugh of silly over-feminist ones, who sees cosmic threat to their rights in every word or gesture. Everything should have its extent, feminism/race questions included. Or pendulum will quickly hit another extreme point. History of Russia past 1917 is the nice example of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venziir View Post
    A warrior is, litterally, just a strong angry guy with a sword. E V E R Y O N E can be that, even gnomes....
    Hey now it could be an axe a mace or even a shield not just swords. Let's not be weaponists that isn't cool dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnaught View Post
    They originally couldnt be warriors because the Sunwell was destroyed. Addicted to magic, they had to use mana.

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    It didnt make sense, and they couldnt be warriors, before the Sunwell was restored. Now theyre fine.
    What the actual what.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardenaso View Post
    I was thinking of warding of magic and removing magic
    It doesn't make you a Paladin in lore. Just a magic-using warrior (Arcane).

    Quote Originally Posted by Amnaught View Post
    Ah yes, how could I forget that turning invisible is a purely martial skill, it takes years of training, no magic at all
    Stealth is not magic.

    And the Farstriders, which had Hunters and Rogues among them, were less affected by their race's magical addiction, because of their lesser use of magic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muxtar View Post
    I guess you didn't see any old movies or read old books where 'guys' is used as 'group of people', women included.
    And btw, I don't hate on all women, I just make laugh of silly over-feminist ones, who sees cosmic threat to their rights in every word or gesture. Everything should have its extent, feminism/race questions included. Or pendulum will quickly hit another extreme point. History of Russia past 1917 is the nice example of that.
    How does a reply to a single person = a group?

    Same can be said for people who think everything is a feminist or sjw agenda

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagenod View Post
    Varodoc's second account it would seem.
    Absolutely not.

    I only stated that since if Blood Elves can be warriors, so to should Void Elves since Velfs are essentially, Blood elves but voided up.

    I care nothing for Void Elves.

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    As a matter of fact, if Gnomes/Goblins can be warriors (and even prot warriors, while we're at it), then everything else is fair game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaria View Post
    Absolutely not.

    I only stated that since if Blood Elves can be warriors, so to should Void Elves since Velfs are essentially, Blood elves but voided up.

    I care nothing for Void Elves.
    I was trolling! Anytime someone remarks about the Void Elves being perfect, or "ascended," I have to bring up Varodoc now. Call it PTSD lol

    Infracted.

    You're right that Elves make excellent warriors though, being the versatile combatants they are.
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    Lorthemar the current leader of the Blood Elves is a warrior. /10 chrs

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    Spellbreakers aren't thematic? Are the guards around Silvermoon not thematic enough?

    Blood elves can get angry, wear plate like everyone else, and heck rune blades - some of the greatest warrior weaponry hailed from elven lineage tied to Blood Elves. Are we also supposed to ignore the many Blood Elf soldiers who died in defense of Silvermoon? What about all the Farstrider soldiers who for thousands of years fought back against threats lime the Trolls, are we supposed to forget them too? It's not like the Farstriders is a group composed of only hunters, anyway.

    And above all else whether it's thematic or not shouldn't be what determines a race/class combo is playable, it should be whether it is possible. Death Knights aren't "thematic" for most races and yet all races have them for the same reason Blood Elves have them:

    All cultures have military, have armies, have soldiers, have peacekeepers, have law-enforcers otherwise a culture would be entirely lawless and without morals or religion. The warrior is a staple of all races because it's necessary in the Warcraft universe to have militia and honor guard to fight against those who would see you destroyed or try to control you.

    It's not like all warriors are the same either. There are mercenaries and body-builders and berserkers and disciplined weapon specialists. We know elves practice intensely for thousands of years to be some of the best in hand to hand combat based on skillful swordplay, so we can't ignore those who make and master the weaponry who live and fight fairly.

    Even Kael'thas among his strongest lieutenants in The Eye of Tempest Keep held a powerful warrior among his ranks - and he was king, and what's more thematic and iconic among a race's tradition than those who serve the leadership directly? This is probably the pinnacle of what in Blood Elf society at one point could aspire to - to serve the king would have been the greatest of honors, as so many took the pilgrimage to Outland inloyalty to Kael'thas. Even if Kael'thas isn't leader anymore, isn't the heritage of a race that lives for so very long important and more influential in this manner? Elves specifically don't have kids as often, so more living eill remeber tradition and culture of a time when Kael'thas was in power.

    And speaking of heritage, here's another thing - paladins are typically priests trained in knighthood, trained martially. Are we just supposed to accept that there is any precedent for training Paladins without Warriors?

    And speaking of martial training, who trains and commands troops on the field? Are we supposed to believe that 0% of thise leading war efforts, who study and make their craft war, wouldn't have Warriors in their ranks?

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