its true. i think it was danuser that said they couldnt read criticism because it might impact their vision.
so blizzard wants an echo chamber when it comes to writing.
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i didnt say they should go to the maw. i said they should be punished.
Anemo: traveler, Sucrose
Pyro: Yanfei, Amber, diluc, xiangling, thoma, Xinyan, Bennett
Geo: Noelle, Ningguang, Yun Jin, Gorou
Hydro: Barbara, Zingqiu, Ayato
Cyro: Shenhe, Kaeya, Chongyun, Diona, Ayaka, Rosaria
Electro: Fischl, Lisa, Miko, Kujou, Raiden, Razor
No. Post BFA she's no worse than Garrosh or Kael'thas so why should she be in the Maw after she killed herself at Icecrown? Im sure we will find out by the end she was set up and never was meant to go to the Maw but someone manipulated her fate.
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Anemo: traveler, Sucrose
Pyro: Yanfei, Amber, diluc, xiangling, thoma, Xinyan, Bennett
Geo: Noelle, Ningguang, Yun Jin, Gorou
Hydro: Barbara, Zingqiu, Ayato
Cyro: Shenhe, Kaeya, Chongyun, Diona, Ayaka, Rosaria
Electro: Fischl, Lisa, Miko, Kujou, Raiden, Razor
God forbid the people creating the story want it to remain true to their vision.
What, do you think that you get a say in how the story is written? Are you really that entitled?
If you like the story, then enjoy it. If you don't like the story, then find another story you like. Plenty of people are enjoying this story and the writers don't need to deal with the community's petty, ignorant complaints.
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Anemo: traveler, Sucrose
Pyro: Yanfei, Amber, diluc, xiangling, thoma, Xinyan, Bennett
Geo: Noelle, Ningguang, Yun Jin, Gorou
Hydro: Barbara, Zingqiu, Ayato
Cyro: Shenhe, Kaeya, Chongyun, Diona, Ayaka, Rosaria
Electro: Fischl, Lisa, Miko, Kujou, Raiden, Razor
*It appears anyone raised into undeath** is bound to the Jailer somehow. The Death Knights don't realize it yet, but they are screwed on an existential level & Sylvanas is in the same situation.
*It seems sparing Uther from becoming a Death Knight saved him from the Maw. And it would be the ultimate irony that this was some kind of small kindness from Arthas
*The latest cutscene says "she never had a choice." Even Genocidal maniacs are given a chance at redemption in Revendreth and Sylvanas didn't start committing war crimes until after (Referring to Wrathgate, if they're saying that was somehow her machinations, that is a retcon. The attack on the living was Varimathras' coup & as we see now, we are supposed to believe the Dreadlords were working for the Jailer all along) so, along with the above, I think we should assume much like how the Jailer converts souls into minions through the trauma of the maw, "Mourneblades" have the power to bind souls to the maw.
*Devos was not wittingly working for the Jailer. And her observation that the system of the Shadowlands is greatly flawed, is correct. But we're apparently supposed to agree with Anduin that it can be fixed somehow other than upending it all.
*I am torn between the trope of a dude talking down a woman from her rampage, or somehow the woman who is traumatized by a man is morally worse than the man who created that trauma as whatever happens in the next cutscene, will determine if Sylvanas is morally better or worse than Arthas
**By a weapon of the Maw. People killed & raised by Frostmorne. Sylvanas was. Uther wasn't raised. & the Forsaken undeath is categorically different
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I've been thinking about this actually. I'm wondering if this expansion will end the Lich King institution for good, along with the Jailer. Seems like it's the only way the Death Knights and co. can be truly free.
I'm not really feeling it either. The way they're propping Anduin as some saviour figure makes me roll my eyes. Not to mention the way the whole scene went down felt really forced, the person talking to Sylvanas should've been one of her sisters or literally anyone she'd actually had some relationship with. They're emphasizing Anduin's importance at the cost of other characters.
OT: Depends. If you go by the retcon that Sylvanas was in on Wrathgate, then yes she absolutely does. But if you go by the Sylvanas as she actually was during WotLK... eh, she had done some shady stuff, but she wasn't that bad.
Of course then Cataclysm comes around and from thereforth she absolutely did belong in the Maw. Really, Cataclysm was the beginning of the slow downwards spiral we've been ever since in regards to declining Horde leadership; We lost Thrall, Cairne, and the old mediocre Sylvanas, and instead gained the fool Garrosh, the inferior Baine, and the morally bankrupt Sylvanas. The awful faction conflict and loss of Horde cohesion and identity we've been saddled with since is the direct result.
So many Sylvanas Simps in here, she deserved it. She is the worst of all characters. Always has been.
Infracted.
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