Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[beanman12345]

Sadly, all my Trump-following family and "friends" are posting these guys pictures on Facebook and claiming it's "Antifa". My sister actually blocked me on Facebook for correcting her.

Not on facebook, but damn bro. Heard stories about family member trumpers on thanksgiving and xmas here on MMO-C, jeez can't even imagine, how ya'll deal with it. I am blessed that everyone around me is as disgusted by Trump as I am. The only Trumpsters I know are the ones I interact with on this site.

[Mormolyce]

Sadly, all my Trump-following family and "friends" are posting these guys pictures on Facebook and claiming it's "Antifa". My sister actually blocked me on Facebook for correcting her.

There is no depth they won't sink to now, they're all in no matter what. Anything less would require them to admit they were wrong... and where would that stop? Their entire web of lies would unravel, and it's all they have now.

[Timester]

He was. https://twitter.com/KaMac76/status/1346965541915930625

Here is a running list of known people to have been at the riots today.

https://forward.com/news/461612/a-gu...d-the-capitol/
Including people that were wearing "Camp Auschwitz" hoodies.

Brien James - Skinhead, leader of the Proudboys and former KKK of Indiana, almost killed a guy for not giving a "Seig Heil" salute.
Proud Boys - Of course, they were there, probably in tow with Roger Stone.
Baked Alaska - was literally live streaming from a senator's office, hope he enjoys prison.
Nationalist Socialist Club - believe the Jews are working to exterminated the white race, holy shit.
QAnon - Of course a myriad of Qtards were there. Including their "Q Shaman".
Kekistan people - Think these people are basically the same as QAnon since I think both were started on 4chan.
And yes Matthew Heimbach was there. But the tweet that is listed was deleted.

So basically, they went to LARP "Burn the Reichstag".

[postman1782]

So basically, they went to LARP "Burn the Reichstag".

From what they were doing, actually going through the Senators' offices and literally stealing the speaker of the house podium, close.

[Mormolyce]

I know I'm a huge asshole who just comes on this forum to cynically laugh at conservative America, but this is a little too much schadenfreude even for me. Just read they found an IED on Capitol Hill. Jesus Christ.

That woman who died storming the Capitol - she may have been part of this insane movement but really she's a victim here too - even though in life she probably never would've admitted it. A deranged cult of fake news brainwashed her and sent her to attack her own democracy, and it killed her. That is fucking sickening.

It's tempting to laugh at the irony of Back the Blue supporters getting a taste of the police brutality they denied existed, but I don't really wish that on anyone, not even these fuckwits. They've all been played by a psychotic conservative media ecosystem that encourages their worst impulses and lies to them morning noon and night, all in the desperate hope of holding onto their vote so the billionaires who fund it can continue to loot the public purse.

I'm going to break character and wish Americans well, stay safe you guys. Even the idiots among you. Don't make me do this again.

[Mihalik]

Sadly, all my Trump-following family and "friends" are posting these guys pictures on Facebook and claiming it's "Antifa". My sister actually blocked me on Facebook for correcting her.

I'm pretty sure that even as the Soviets were raising the flag on the Reichstag there were plenty of "loyal Germans" still convinced that the Fuhrer will somehow come through and save the day.

This country just as any other recovering from fascist rule will need years of reform and institutional reconstruction to recover from the damage done.

[jonnysensible]

This country just any other recovering from fascist rule will need years of reform and institutional reconstruction to recover from the damage done.

I think its actually facing terminal decline, this is just the first coup

[Mihalik]

I think its actually facing terminal decline.

It doesn't need to be.

But Democrats really have to abandon notions of bipartisanship (there's no compromise with these people) and gradualism.

It's really a do or die moment. Reform now, or were fucked.

And conservatives who still believe in America need to abandon the GOP and start from scratch. The GOP is unsalvageable.

[PosPosPos]

It's tempting to laugh at the irony of Back the Blue supporters getting a taste of the police brutality they denied existed, but I don't really wish that on anyone, not even these fuckwits.

I do.

And why? Because they do know police brutality exists - it's just okay in their book if it's directed at the people they hate.

What they wish for, is what they have rightfully sown and reaped.

That woman who died storming the Capitol - she may have been part of this insane movement but really she's a victim here too - even though in life she probably never would've admitted it. A deranged cult of fake news brainwashed her and sent her to attack her own democracy, and it killed her. That is fucking sickening.

There's being physically forced to undergo brainwashing, and then there's voluntarily opting into and embracing brainwashing - she's not a victim, except of herself.

At some point people like you have to realize that excusing their own personal role in their poor life choices and indulging in their brand of mundane, stupid evil; is just going to enable them to continue doing whatever it is they are doing.

It's about time the good peoples accept that the wicked have to face their due consequences as a result of their own choices and deal with it on their own; and choosing to help them comes at the expense of all the other destitute innocents in the world who actually need and deserve said help.

[CostinR]

Bold to assume Trump's Twitter account will still be active by January 20th...

I can't imagine it staying live for long after it gets unbanned in a few hours. I highly doubt Trump is going to suddenly start being better behaved.

A measure of restraint would have served Trump well after he won in 2016. Instead he went on the very deep end with every passing year. Getting worse and worse.

[Corvus]

Trump really needs to be gotten rid of right away. There is still a lot more damage he can do in two weeks. Bombing places for starters.

[Fincayra]

Trump really needs to be gotten rid of right away. There is still a lot more damage he can do in two weeks. Bombing places for starters.

It's done. The President has officially become the Resident.

[Draco-Onis]

Trump really needs to be gotten rid of right away. There is still a lot more damage he can do in two weeks. Bombing places for starters.

Yup it only gets worse from here if rats are truly jumping ship last minute he will get more violent and vindictive.

[Paranoid Android]

I posted somewhere as snark but you know if the impeach Trump he can't run again in 2024. So yes some snark here, but if Republicans who want to run in 2024 or at least get rid of Trump out of the party they could vote to impeach and the next 4 years of him talking about running would be mute.

[Kathranis]

I posted somewhere as snark but you know if the impeach Trump he can't run again in 2024. So yes some snark here, but if Republicans who want to run in 2024 or at least get rid of Trump out of the party they could vote to impeach and the next 4 years of him talking about running would be mute.

They can also potentially still impeach him even after he's out of office. Such a thing hasn't been attempted but there's nothing to prevent it.

The Senate GOP has at least largely turned on Trump. They might actually find enough support to speed through the process, and preventing Trump from running would make things easier for GOP candidates.

[Dontrike]

Taking someone at their word is "spinning" and "hand-waving" now? Sure thing, son.

So wait, are we supposed to take him by his exact wording? So no more "what he meant was....."?

[Mormolyce]

A measure of restraint would have served Trump well after he won in 2016. Instead he went on the very deep end with every passing year. Getting worse and worse.

Yeah but that's kind of like asking why fish don't grow wings and fly.

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Even taking those quotes at their worst, this is still a reach. To agree with this, I would first need to believe Trump is a mastermind and has been planning this day for months/years.

You'd have to have a severe mental handicap to not be aware that Trump has spent the last two months inciting his base to not accept the results of a democratic election.

[Gorsameth]

so apparently, despite an actual attack on the capitol building by insurgents. Complete with bombs planted 138 out of 204 House Republicans and 7 Senators voted to overturn the election results.

Where does this end? Is America doomed in the long run? Because I don't see how this gets a happy end.

Expelling members might have worked if its a dozen people at most but this goes way to deep for that.
Seriously, how can you have a government where 1/3 openly supports an insurrection exist and function?

What is the way forward from here?

[Mormolyce]

so apparently, despite an actual attack on the capitol building by insurgents. Complete with bombs planted 138 out of 204 House Republicans and 7 Senators voted to overturn the election results.

Where does this end? Is America doomed in the long run? Because I don't see how this gets a happy end.

Expelling members might have worked if its a dozen people at most but this goes way to deep for that.
Seriously, how can you have a government where 1/3 openly supports an insurrection exist and function?

What is the way forward from here?

If American democracy is worth the paper it's written on, all 138 House members and 7 Senators should be expelled from office, prohibited from running again, and probably charged.

[Machismo]

so apparently, despite an actual attack on the capitol building by insurgents. Complete with bombs planted 138 out of 204 House Republicans and 7 Senators voted to overturn the election results.

Where does this end? Is America doomed in the long run? Because I don't see how this gets a happy end.

Expelling members might have worked if its a dozen people at most but this goes way to deep for that.
Seriously, how can you have a government where 1/3 openly supports an insurrection exist and function?

What is the way forward from here?

It ends when people stop trying to baby the Trumpsters.

It ends when we stop socializing with them, stop letting them around our families.

It ends, when they either recant all of their shitty Nazi ways, or they disappear from society.