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    Quote Originally Posted by Levelfive View Post
    Did you not see them? "Civil War 1/6/2021"
    I did... still indignant...
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    The "Great Retconning" started?

    It was sooner than I expected, but after the riot and Trump throwing them under the bus, not surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skulltaker View Post
    They think there is nothing to forget or forgive. Remember, these people aren't smart.
    The cops let them in and were taking selfie’s with them... they were freely walking out of the capital, stealing shit, with cops literally helping them down the stairs.

    This isn’t the issue with intellect... and I bet at least one of those who will be persecuted, will use the fact that cops let them in, in their defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timester View Post
    The "Great Retconning" started?

    It was sooner than I expected, but after the riot and Trump throwing them under the bus, not surprised.
    Full force... even on here... people deleting their post history and changing names... the good news is that outward Trumpism is indeed dead, but the internet is anonymous.
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    I just sat and read earlier pages of this thread... My mind was f**** blown out. Who the hell thinks that it is right to call protesters nazis/fascists? I do not defend them - some of them may be misguided, dumb (to take part in this run) or even be terrorists (IEDs were found in Capitol I heard?), but calling them nazis/fascists have ZERO F***** SENSE! You have zero idea what these terms even mean - no wonder that world laugh at avg US citizen now. It is esp. hurtfull for us (me included) from eastern EU, where atleast 2/3 of all families here still have living relatives, who still has in their memory executions on streets, trains full of Jews, Poles, Soviet Union citizens and others that were taken away to the death camps... And after horrors of REAL nazis regime in our cities, another 50+ yrs of communists. So for f*** sake, think for a second before you say anything dumb again. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    The cops let them in and were taking selfie’s with them... they were freely walking out of the capital, stealing shit, with cops literally helping them down the stairs.
    This one is eye-catching: https://twitter.com/veronic81819923/...304961539?s=20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lulz1 View Post
    I just sat and read earlier pages of this thread... My mind was f**** blown out. Who the hell thinks that it is right to call protesters nazis/fascists? I do not defend them - some of them may be misguided, dumb (to take part in this run) or even be terrorists (IEDs were found in Capitol I heard?), but calling them nazis/fascists have ZERO F***** SENSE! You have zero idea what these terms even mean - no wonder that world laugh at avg US citizen now. It is esp. hurtfull for us (me included) from eastern EU, where atleast 2/3 of all families here still have living relatives, who still has in their memory executions on streets, trains full of Jews, Poles, Russians and others that were taken away to the death camps... And after horrors of REAL nazis regime in our cities, another 50+ yrs of communists. So for f*** sake, think for a second before you say anything dumb again. Thanks.
    BECAUSE THEY LITERALLY HAD NAZIS AND ARE FASCISTS in their group. I don't give a flying FUCK, they literally are fucking Nazis and fascists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lulz1 View Post
    I just sat and read earlier pages of this thread... My mind was f**** blown out. Who the hell thinks that it is right to call protesters nazis/fascists? I do not defend them - some of them may be misguided, dumb (to take part in this run) or even be terrorists (IEDs were found in Capitol I heard?), but calling them nazis/fascists have ZERO F***** SENSE! You have zero idea what these terms even mean - no wonder that world laugh at avg US citizen now. It is esp. hurtfull for us (me included) from eastern EU, where atleast 2/3 of all families here still have living relatives, who still has in their memory executions on streets, trains full of Jews, Poles, Russians and others that were taken away to the death camps... And after horrors of REAL nazis regime in our cities, another 50+ yrs of communists. So for f*** sake, think for a second before you say anything dumb again. Thanks.
    Except we all know that many of rioters are neo-nazis and fascists, it's no hidden secret.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timester View Post
    The "Great Retconning" started?

    It was sooner than I expected, but after the riot and Trump throwing them under the bus, not surprised.
    hell even ted cruz is trying to retcon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lulz1 View Post
    I just sat and read earlier pages of this thread... My mind was f**** blown out. Who the hell thinks that it is right to call protesters nazis/fascists? I do not defend them - some of them may be misguided, dumb (to take part in this run) or even be terrorists (IEDs were found in Capitol I heard?), but calling them nazis/fascists have ZERO F***** SENSE! You have zero idea what these terms even mean - no wonder that world laugh at avg US citizen now. It is esp. hurtfull for us (me included) from eastern EU, where atleast 2/3 of all families here still have living relatives, who still has in their memory executions on streets, trains full of Jews, Poles, Soviet Union citizens and others that were taken away to the death camps... And after horrors of REAL nazis regime in our cities, another 50+ yrs of communists. So for f*** sake, think for a second before you say anything dumb again. Thanks.
    Well, they're Nazis and fascists... Thats why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timester View Post
    Except we all know that many of rioters are neo-nazis and fascists, it's no hidden secret.
    Yeah, it's not somehow wrong to call them exactly what they are, and are Proud to be, and I think anyone still calling them "protesters" has already tipped their hand.
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    burner is upset nazi's are being called nazi's. trumpers are sad that they are suckers. the right is falling apart, and I love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lulz1 View Post
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    We are calling terrorist and insurrection state fascist, because their leaders that were self identifying, were calling them selfs fascist. They can call them selfs fascist, but we are not supposed to, because it makes your Trump loyalty look bad? Who the fuck do you think the proud boys are and why during the debates Trump told them to stand bye?

    Edit: Since you said you have this greater knowledge due to being Easter European... look at my user name... what do you think it means?

    Edit 2: Snipping to help mods, when the inevitable comes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lulz1 View Post
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    Just the help you out and hold your hand.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/hate...e-percenters-2

    This is a short list, not a complete list, but definitely includes Nazi groups that were there along with extremist groups.

    KEK Flag was there, born on 4chan, flown by literal Nazis.
    3 %ers - far right extremist militia group, usually defending Nazis with weapons, believe they were at the Charlottesville Unite the Right Nazi rally.
    QAnon - far right extremists that believe that Hollywood is full of pedophiles that drink the blood of newborns.
    The Q Shaman that was there has Norse symbols that have been co-opted by Nazi groups.
    Stop the Steal morons - literally gullible Trump supporters that thought that Trump was robbed of the election.
    Neo-Nazis - yes, there were people there that were literal Nazis that were wearing "Camp Auschwitz" sweatshirts.
    Confederate Traitors - basically the Nazis before Nazism was a thing, just happened to originate from racist southerners that didn't want to lose their slaves.
    Proud Boys - white nationalist group, just because their leader is black, doesn't mean they aren't basically Nazis as well. Their former leader Gavin McInnes is a white nationalist as well.
    Nationalist Anarchist Movement - Far right antisemitic for racial separation, basically doesn't like interracial marriage, and looks down on any other races in the country. BASICALLY Nazis.

    To say there weren't Nazis there, despite others being there like known leaders of the Maryland Skinheads and possibly Traditionalist Workers Party people, is fucking disingenuous at best, and downright wrong at worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    Just the help you out and hold your hand.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/hate...e-percenters-2

    This is a short list, not a complete list, but definitely includes Nazi groups that were there along with extremist groups.

    KEK Flag was there, born on 4chan, flown by literal Nazis.
    3 %ers - far right extremist militia group, usually defending Nazis with weapons, believe they were at the Charlottesville Unite the Right Nazi rally.
    QAnon - far right extremists that believe that Hollywood is full of pedophiles that drink the blood of newborns.
    The Q Shaman that was there has Norse symbols that have been co-opted by Nazi groups.
    Stop the Steal morons - literally gullible Trump supporters that thought that Trump was robbed of the election.
    Neo-Nazis - yes, there were people there that were literal Nazis that were wearing "Camp Auschwitz" sweatshirts.
    Confederate Traitors - basically the Nazis before Nazism was a thing, just happened to originate from racist southerners that didn't want to lose their slaves.
    Proud Boys - white nationalist group, just because their leader is black, doesn't mean they aren't basically Nazis as well. Their former leader Gavin McInnes is a white nationalist as well.
    Nationalist Anarchist Movement - Far right antisemitic for racial separation, basically doesn't like interracial marriage, and looks down on any other races in the country. BASICALLY Nazis.

    To say there weren't Nazis there, despite others being there like known leaders of the Maryland Skinheads and possibly Traditionalist Workers Party people, is fucking disingenuous at best, and downright wrong at worst.
    That's right, I had forgotten about the 6MWE shirts, too. For those on their fainting couches that nazis and fascists are being called nazis and fascists, 6MWE means "6 million wasn't enough."
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    It's a shame that so many Nazis are starting to lose their jobs over this.... ha!

    The First Amendment is awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    It's a shame that so many Nazis are starting to lose their jobs over this.... ha!

    The First Amendment is awesome.
    It really couldn't be happening to nicer people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magical Mudcrab View Post
    not the best time to be out of work.

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    Remember when dumspters "respected" the American flag?


    https://news.yahoo.com/pro-trump-rio...223521233.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    not the best time to be out of work.
    Luckily for the newly-unemployed... the chances of a stimulus with a bigger paycheck will increase after the 20th.

    e irony of Trumpsters becoming socialists as a result of their fascism is not lost on me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magical Mudcrab View Post
    Hundreds have already been identified, and there's plenty more that will be. Here's a tip people... if you are going to commit crimes, don't announce it on your Facebook page.

    The streaming sites are going to be banning a lot of accounts, because they won't want to be tied up in the web of profiting off of criminal acts. they were able to get their hits with the "newsworthy" nature of the live feeds, but can also go back and retroactively delete all those users.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Hundreds have already been identified, and there's plenty more that will be. Here's a tip people... if you are going to commit crimes, don't announce it on your Facebook page.
    Also, don’t announce when you won’t be home for long periods of time, like vacation. Do not post about your first pet, if it’s your secret word at a bank. Most hacking is done through social engineering, not development of new tools.

    Edit: Also, if you are posting from a phone, saying that vaccines will implant a microchip... you are a grade A moron... just a side jab at those people... Why would anyone need to microchip you, when they can just ask you on the tracking device you are already holding? No one will microchip you, when a Facebook post playing a game, where you state your date of birth, if it were your social security number, garners 1000s of replies with people saying their social security number.
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