Capitol Insurrection / rebellion thread

[Machismo]

I can pick cherries, too! Would you like me to link footage of cops marching in solidarity with BLM Activists? Perhaps you'd like the post-curfew crackdown of the supposed insurrection at our Sacred Temple of Democracy™.

As far as Police killings of Blacks, the numbers are largely where we'd expect them to be, given other figures such as crime rates, breakdowns of cop killers by race, etc. It's actually probably not the case that the police, flawed as they are, are really just venting racial prejudice across the board.

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Man asks if his source has been read after not reading provided source. More at 11.

Once again, I provided my source first, did you read it?

I suggest you do, since your source uses mine as a reference.

[szechuan]

Once again, I provided my source first, did you read it?

I suggest you do, since your source uses mine as a reference.

He won't look at your sources.
He thinks BLM is the same as Qanon.

[Fencers]

Systemic racism is not merely racial prejudice. If the "figures" are suggesting these affect African-Americans disproportionally, that is systemic.

That is the exact problem defined and purpose of the terminology to point out the processes and circumstances that affect a group more than another- as a system. Not necessarily that Officer Larry hates blacks.

[Mekh]

I can pick cherries, too! Would you like me to link footage of cops marching in solidarity with BLM Activists? Perhaps you'd like the post-curfew crackdown of the supposed insurrection at our Sacred Temple of Democracy™.

Do you have an actual point to make or are you just trying to annoy people until they get themselves infracted?

[Daelak]

I see you're invoking the status difference I mentioned earlier. Yes, studies from the Brookings Institution that help prop up some of these absurd claims are totally reliable. African Americans really do use drugs as much as whites, but they're arrested for it more! That's really horrible and we need to completely restructure society to solve it!

What about black familial wealth being a tenth of white familial wealth? What about the more stringent sentencing of black offenders for crack cocaine when compared to powder cocaine possession for whites?

[Endus]

Except USC 1111 most definitely defines felony murder, as felony murder isn't a separate degree of murder and it just so happens that on federal level (and in most of the states) it is considered first degree murder... Which is why I quoted the part that is felony murder alone... Also, the Capitol is federal property so federal law applies. Which is why it's already been reported the justice department has opened a federal murder case in regards to the killed police officer.

That's . . . just ignoring what the felony murder rule is. It isn't about the definition of what is/is not a murder.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_murder_rule

[szechuan]

Systemic racism is not merely racial prejudice. If the "figures" are suggesting these affect African-Americans disproportionally, that is systemic.

That is the exact problem defined and purpose of the terminology to point out the processes and circumstances that affect a group more than another- as a system. Not necessarily that Officer Larry hates blacks.

Exactly, Qanon is just a baseless conspiracy, comparing the two is pure nonsense.

[Wildberry]

Once again, I provided my source first, did you read it?

I suggest you do, since your source uses mine as a reference.

In its entirety? Not yet. If you'd like a substantive reply quickly, I already outlined how you'd go about getting that. So unless you want to properly format your post in a similar manner to what I provided, you're going to have to wait. In the meantime, you should actually read what I linked. I know the Ctrl+F bit is fun, but you really did shoot yourself in the foot with your prior comment.

Try learning sometime, lol.

[szechuan]

Try learning sometime, lol.

Says the person trying to equate Qanon to BLM and Systemic Racism.

[Wildberry]

Systemic racism is not merely racial prejudice. If the "figures" are suggesting these affect African-Americans disproportionally, that is systemic.

That is the exact problem defined and purpose of the terminology to point out the processes and circumstances that affect a group more than another- as a system. Not necessarily that Officer Larry hates blacks.

And why must we assume that any case of disproportionate/unequal outcomes has to be the result of the legacy of racism & prior inequity etched into institutions.

Surely there are other things we might want to consider, right?

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Says the person trying to equate Qanon to BLM and Systemic Racism.

I know, you "wouldn't be caught dead" talking about Tom Hanks & Comet Pizza. It's a status thing. Believe me, I get it, I really do.

[szechuan]

And why must we assume that any case of disproportionate racism has to be the result of the legacy of racism & prior inequity etched into institutions.

It's not an Assumption.

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I know, you "wouldn't be caught dead" talking about Tom Hanks & Comet Pizza. It's a status thing. Believe me, I get it, I really do.

A Right Wing Extremist Conspiracy Theory is a "Status Thing"?

[Wildberry]

"Status Thing"
lmao.

That's exactly what it is. "Systemic Racism" is Q-anon for Affluent White Liberals.

It's not an Assumption.

That's precisely what it is, actually.

[szechuan]

That's exactly what it is. "Systemic Racism" is Q-anon for Affluent White Liberals.

LMAO

That's precisely what it is, actually.

It precisely isn't.

[Fencers]

Surely there are other things we might want to consider, right?

Yes... that is what the study and phrasing of institutional and systemic bias do. That is how we arrived at the conclusion institutions have a legacy of unequal treatment of persons that are reinforced by a set of processes that disproportionately affect some groups more than others.

In other words, the very same explanation the terminology and study describe.

[Machismo]

In its entirety? Not yet. If you'd like a substantive reply quickly, I already outlined how you'd go about getting that. So unless you want to properly format your post in a similar manner to what I provided, you're going to have to wait. In the meantime, you should actually read what I linked. I know the Ctrl+F bit is fun, but you really did shoot yourself in the foot with your prior comment.

Try learning sometime, lol.

Moving goalposts... how adorable.

Well, my evidence comes from the most expansive use of force study ever done in this country, and was so damn good, your own source used mine as a reference.

I suggest you read what I linked, enjoy!!!

Man, imagine going out of your way to be intellectually dishonest to justify racism.

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That's exactly what it is. "Systemic Racism" is Q-anon for Affluent White Liberals.



That's precisely what it is, actually.

My evidence disagrees with you.

If you care to refute it, I look forward to you being able to do so. Good luck!!!

[Wildberry]

Yes... that is what the study and phrasing of institutional and systemic bias do. That is how we arrived at the conclusion institutions have a legacy of unequal treatment of persons that are reinforced by a set of processes that disproportionately affect some groups more than others.

In other words, the very same explanation the terminology and study describe.

Yeah, no what I mean is we might want to give consideration to other ideas as to why those inequalities might arise. All we're doing right now is looking at unequal outcomes, and assuming that the reason must necessarily be racism, even if there aren't any racists, such as Officer Larry in your example. I don't really see why that must be the case, or why other causes for disparities should be disregarded.

[Xeones]

You guys are letting that guy lead you along with irrelevant nonsense. He's already broken the rules with a few of his posts no need to keep engaging.

[szechuan]

and assuming that the reason must necessarily be racism

You're the one Assuming.

[Daelak]

Yeah, no what I mean is we might want to give consideration to other ideas as to why those inequalities might arise. All we're doing right now is looking at unequal outcomes, and assuming that the reason must necessarily be racism, even if there aren't any racists, such as Officer Larry in your example. I don't really see why that must be the case, or why other causes for disparities should be disregarded.

Lets hear your competing hypothesis.

[Wildberry]

Moving goalposts... how adorable.

Well, my evidence comes from the most expansive use of force study ever done in this country, and was so damn good, your own source used mine as a reference.

I suggest you read what I linked, enjoy!!!

Man, imagine going out of your way to be intellectually dishonest to justify racism.

Here's the deal, if you'd like to do something other than make snarky shitposts that just show me you've used Ctrl+F & immediately jumped to a ridiculous conclusion about the source provided, you're free to do so. Until then, I'm not responding to bad faith posts, it's not worth it, and you're not smart enough to get it until proven otherwise.

Feel free to meet the standard!