Not to wade in to the argument you having, just want to point out that particular statement is a massive over simplification of a complex part of German history, and not entirely true.
The weirmar Republic was like most goverments of the time heavily involved in censorship, examples being the censoring of the proletarian film Kuhle Wampe, the nazis did under go harsher censorship in the the early days, especialy after the Putsch, after the Putsch, and hittler was released from prison the nazi party changed tactics from a revolutionary party to an electoral one just with nefarious motives, in that vain there propaganda changed and what they were saying changed so as to appear legitimate and dodge the censorship that other extream parties like the communists had imposed on them.
So its not as black and white as people wish to think of that time period, hittler didn't stand up looking to get his first members elected to parliment by screaming about gassing Jews, if people bothered to look at the election posters the nazis produced in 1932, there are very few ive managed to find that even todays censors would block, and most of his propaganda isnt much different from whats produced by many partys across the western world today. Hitler's campaign focused on the economic issues of Germany, and used family motifs, conservative values mixed with a heavy use of the german worker and working class imagery taking charge over the elite and the rich, not all that dismilar from the drain the swamp propaganda of trump tbh.
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What were Nazis then ? You dismiss what he said but provide no evidence or explanation for such dismissal. All of Germany turned racist all of a sudden when they elected Hitler ?
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Curious that I learned during my scholarship in France that the treaty of Versailles was considered as a humiliation of Germany because it had to endorsed all responsabilities of the WW1 (among all other things).
Here we go with the victim complex. Nothing from the past few decades justifies anything that Trump and his supporters have done.
Nah, this guy was all over the House.
https://gothamist.com/news/trump-fur...me-court-judge
Let's not forget that Italy went fascist before Germany and it had been on the winning side in WW1.
Yeah, apart from being inaccurate that also misses the point: if I break into a bank after hours and take pictures in the vault I will not free by saying that the public is allowed there.
And the reality seems to be the opposite - it was a bit worse as media only showed things the media safely could see and send; https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/09/m...y-8/index.html
Indeed more footage is coming out and it's not painting a pretty picture. These rioters will learn the hard way that ignorance does not mean innocence.
As for the whole World War analogies, trumpkins need to be aware if they wish to use those all it will do is further proof the similarities in the rise of fascism. Something everyone outside the insanity bubble of their social media groups have been aware of for a long time now.
“My philosophy is: It’s none of my business what people say of me and think of me. I am what I am and I do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. And it makes life so much easier.”
― Anthony Hopkins
You don't even have to get that far: The problem with versailles was that it stated that the war was germanys fault and they had to pay a lot. We can now debate if it was harsher than others or not, but it doesn't matter:
At the time the Nazis came to power the treaty was already heavily modified in favor of Germany (heavy reduction in payments, occupation, etc.) the ministers of exterior of France and Germany even got the Nobel Peace Prize for it - i think 1926..
So the Nazis used a lie to sell the people something that wasn't true anymore at least half a decade.
I think Brest-Litovsk is not a good example as it was void 6 months later anyway, so it doesn't had such a lasting impact on the memory of society (compare to the occupation of the Rheinland)
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With a deep resentment, because they didn't get the spoils of war they wanted and there was a sense of betrayal. Not that it matters much, but the first world war is much more grey...
Ah yes, having to watch gay people get legally married and people of color afforded the same rights granted by the constitution to live their lives. That must have been SOOOOOO horrible for the nazis, fascists, and white supremacists to watch happen. We can't have none of that in our white ethno-state.
2014 Gamergate: "If you want games without hyper sexualized female characters and representation, then learn to code!"
2023: "What's with all these massively successful games with ugly (realistic) women? How could this have happened?!"
What shit? The economy has been stalling out for the middle class in large part because of Republican policies and their trickle down economics.
What is the shit they had to endure from Democrats that was worse than Republicans taking a hatchet to the middle class repeatedly?
I guess, being told there were racism issues when law enforcement shoot persons of color without the slightest valid reason.
Or something.
Also, if "socialism" is the devil, and it is known that all the left meet in pizza parlors to rape and eat children, it is not a stretch to think that some actually believe all the left is an enraged ACAB mob out to get them.
Or their feelings are hurt because they see that a significant portion of the people do not like or respect them very much "for no reason"
Hurt feelings, I'd say.
Which would be ironic if not immensely sad, considering all the POC or otherwise prejudiced minorities that *REALLY* are disliked, disrespected, if not worse, for no (valid)reason.
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