[EU] Brexit negotiations at a standstill

[Acidbaron]

I see the advocates of the brexit are also now trying to spin this as less globalization to be a good thing, oh boy they are in for a rough surprise once reality sits in and what less trade actually means for an economy as a whole.

There is this myth that suddenly everything will be produced locally again, which they may with all the added negatives for the consumer, meanwhile big businesses are enacting an exit plan.

[LeGin Tufnel]

Stop the whinging already.

Is this a ye olde expression? I don't understand the tagging on of 'already' at the end of 'stop the whinging'. It's not grammatical.

Anyway, I consulted an online quiz:

https://www.industryweek.com/supply-...omplainer-quiz'

And... d'ya know what? You're completely correct. I am:

a major complainer. Complaining has become a habit for you and it's time to do a No Complaining Fast and action plan.

I've Google'd no complaining rule action plans and I particularly like the suggested exercise at the end of this one:

https://www.oreilly.com/library/view...9496/ch31.html

Discuss the benefits to an organization or team that is solution focused instead of problem ...

So, in the interests of posters such as yourself in this thread who object to me whining... here's my considered opinion:

The UK should rejoin the EU.

Problem solved. I'll stop whining.

[Kotuthan]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/13...d-faroes-eu-uk

Looks like UK Fishers are unable to Fish by Norway, Greenland and the Faroe waters. Hull-based UK Fisheries Ltd is worried that they might be put out of business and is saying the European investors are withdrawing.

Uk Fisherman are having trouble exporting to France. https://twitter.com/bbcmartynoates/s...027065856?s=20

[Huehuecoyotl]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/13...d-faroes-eu-uk

Looks like UK Fishers are unable to Fish by Norway, Greenland and the Faroe waters. Hull-based UK Fisheries Ltd is worried that they might be put out of business and is saying the European investors are withdrawing.

Typical Express shit. Trying to imply that Norway et al have banned the poor UK fishermen, when in reality they can't fish because the UK hasn't agreed a deal with the EU to allow them to.

Brexit being poorly organised and detrimental to the people that voted for it? Who could have seen that coming, eh?

[ranzino]

Typical Express shit. Trying to imply that Norway et al have banned the poor UK fishermen, when in reality they can't fish because the UK hasn't agreed a deal with the EU to allow them to.

Brexit being poorly organised and detrimental to the people that voted for it? Who could have seen that coming, eh?

Norway is not EU, but did UK asked them prior to january ?

[LeGin Tufnel]

Stop carping.

What doesn't krill you, makes you stronger.

[Kallisto]

Stop carping.

What doesn't krill you, makes you stronger.

I laughed more than I should.

[Butler to Baby Sloths]

Stop carping.

But that's their sole porpoise in life...

[Demolitia]

Is everyone just super, super shocked at this? Only took a week.

Scrap EU consumer and worker protections now Brexit is completed, leading Tory says

Not really? They wanted their own rules, so here goes ...
And neither is the EU. That's why they were so insistant on a level playing field and sanction mechanism.
Now that's just some peer's opinion. It doesn't mean it will happen.

[Inuyaki]

UK ‘rejected offer’ of visa-free tours by musicians in EU, despite blaming Brussels for permit blow

BoJo sucks so much

[Acidbaron]

UK ‘rejected offer’ of visa-free tours by musicians in EU, despite blaming Brussels for permit blow

BoJo sucks so much

Fits in the narrow minded nationalist view of the Brexit, so it's not at all that surprising.
It could be less nefarious than that, but what the cabinet is made out of says enough and what voices they listen to.

Now the event sector as a whole is going through a hard time, not having this will lead to the inevitable result that a lot of artists that don't have an overall large international fan base will either have to stop or make due with the market merely inside the UK.

Laughable that they still pin everything going wrong on the EU but to be expected.

[dribbles]

UK ‘rejected offer’ of visa-free tours by musicians in EU, despite blaming Brussels for permit blow

BoJo sucks so much

Very sensible.

People are so desperate to get into the UK from the EU they would suddenly all become karaoke artistes to bypass UK control of their borders.

Meanwhile on the £350 million a week calculation, and now 10 days in, the UK has saved half a billion pounds already. Enough to build a new hospital as an example...

Great stuff Boris.
[Infraction]

[Crispin]

Very sensible.

People are so desperate to get into the UK from the EU they would suddenly all become karaoke artistes to bypass UK control of their borders.

Meanwhile on the £350 million a week calculation, and now 10 days in, the UK has saved half a billion pounds already. Enough to build a new hospital as an example...

Great stuff Boris.

Abit sad that your argument at this point, is nothing but a lie, one which you should be very aware of.

So you’re either trolling or extremely ignorant.

Meanwhile

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...gove-is-warned

[Easo]

Very sensible.

People are so desperate to get into the UK from the EU they would suddenly all become karaoke artistes to bypass UK control of their borders.

Meanwhile on the £350 million a week calculation, and now 10 days in, the UK has saved half a billion pounds already. Enough to build a new hospital as an example...

Great stuff Boris.

Get facts in studio or shut it. Prove that people are faking being musicians to bypass border control. PROVE IT.

[Pann]

UK ‘rejected offer’ of visa-free tours by musicians in EU, despite blaming Brussels for permit blow

BoJo sucks so much

Reading the linked article (and others) it appears that visa exemption for musicians was something that both sides wanted but failed to agree on the details. Obviously neither side wants to be held responsible by their respective voters so are, predictably, pointing fingers. I suspect that by the time musicians are able to tour again that the details will be ironed out and agreements in place and this will turn out be a non-issue.

[Butler to Baby Sloths]

Very sensible.

People are so desperate to get into the UK from the EU they would suddenly all become karaoke artistes to bypass UK control of their borders.

Got any proof for that?

Meanwhile on the £350 million a week calculation, and now 10 days in, the UK has saved half a billion pounds already. Enough to build a new hospital as an example...

Given that number is bullshit, the UK has not saved half a billion pounds already.

Enough to build a new hospital as an example...

How about they spend it on nurses, they don't have enough for the hospitals that they already have.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...g-covid-cases/

Huh, maybe it's because lots of nursing staff left the NHS because of Brexit and the racist bullshit spewed by patients? Who'd have thought it, Brexit is hurting the NHS more than it is saving it.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/n...exit-f0xkdgb7x

[dribbles]

Get facts in studio or shut it. Prove that people are faking being musicians to bypass border control. PROVE IT.

The problem is UK musicians, think The Beatles, Genesis, Pink Floyd, Rolling Stones etc etc ought to easily qualify for visa free touring. However what the UK receives back from the EU is not of equal value...

There has been an increase in the use of animals in street performances by buskers of EU origin

https://www.mylondon.news/news/west-...-dogs-15484632

Clearly the UK when comparing the two would reject EU proposals, a benefit of Brexit is this disparity is now resolved.

[Mayhem]

Reading the linked article (and others) it appears that visa exemption for musicians was something that both sides wanted but failed to agree on the details. Obviously neither side wants to be held responsible by their respective voters so are, predictably, pointing fingers. I suspect that by the time musicians are able to tour again that the details will be ironed out and agreements in place and this will turn out be a non-issue.

Yeah, UK "30 days is enough" EU "90 days is standard", bad EU for giving musicians and performers more time to tour.

[dribbles]

Yeah, UK "30 days is enough" EU "90 days is standard", bad EU for giving musicians and performers more time to tour.

Again, the UK wants to export artists of world renown, the EU want to send us performing dogs in return and expect them to have equal treatment. That EU proposal was quite reasonably rejected by the UK. Another brexit benefit and taking back control you see...

[Mayhem]

Again, the UK wants to export artists of world renown, the EU want to send us performing dogs in return and expect them to have equal treatment. That EU proposal was quite reasonably rejected by the UK. Another brexit benefit and taking back control you see...

A benefit for UK artists of world renown indeed.