Deplatform Parler good or bad?

[gondrin]

Why would corporations care? When you shoot corporations, where do you aim? Your computer or someone else’s?

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It was literally a single man, screaming that the will of the people should be ignored, because of his superiority. That’s fascism... I am not sure what fashism is... sounds like a trendy fashion show...

Fashism, isn't that where the Fashion police comes out and does a makeover for dressing like an ugly xmas sweater all year.

[Machismo]

im not sure that the fact that a single corporation is able to censor and destroy arguable the most influential global leader is a fact to celebrate

if they have no problem censoring president of USA they have no problem to censor and destroy literaly whole nations globalwide.

quoting openheimer : "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds'" - its not that different in the effect it could have on world's future then atom bomb dropped on hiroshima.

A single corporation cannot do that. You are either being ignorant, or lying... all to shill for Trump.

Trump can literally start his own website (which he still has), or even his own social media site (which me has said he may do). You are literally whining about capitalism and the First Amendment, and considering your post history, that is rather contradictory.

[kamuimac]

A single corporation cannot do that. You are either being ignorant, or lying... all to shill for Trump.

Trump can literally start his own website (which he still has), or even his own social media site (which me has said he may do). You are literally whining about capitalism and the First Amendment, and considering your post history, that is rather contradictory.

Trump is a clown and i couldnt care less about him

what i care about is denying freedom of speach to people anywhere in world.

and this is what just started on mass scale.

its not about Trump as Trump - its about fb/twitter silencing President of United States.

[Mormolyce]

im not sure that the fact that a single corporation is able to censor and destroy arguable the most influential global leader is a fact to celebrate

if they have no problem censoring president of USA they have no problem to censor and destroy literaly whole nations globalwide.

quoting openheimer : "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds'" - its not that different in the effect it could have on world's future then atom bomb dropped on hiroshima.

It's a fucking Twitter account lol, you realise he's only the second President to even have a Twitter account right?

He can make speeches, he can give press conferences, he can address congress, he can go on the news... of course news agencies may choose not to run his nonsense either, which before this idiot became President was never a question. Any other President would have news agencies falling over themselves to get an interview with the President. He's absolutely, 100% done this to himself. It's quite a feat considering these places all covered for him for four years and only now is it finally too fucking much for them all.

Probably the reason he isn't using any other avenue to make speeches right now is (a) he's shitting his pants, and (b) his aides are desperately trying to stop him further incriminating himself.

Twitter must be patting itself on the back right now with the way everyone's talking about it like it's fundamental to our society. It's a shitty social network, a ploy designed to harvest your personal info to on-sell to advertisers by convincing you to hang out and post inane drivel in a giant trash fire. Just like Facebook and all the others.

[Timester]

Trump is a clown and i couldnt care less about him

what i care about is denying freedom of speach to people anywhere in world.

and this is what just started on mass scale.

No one's freedom of speech is being denied. Freedom of speech doesnt entitle you or anyone to a free and open platform.

[Machismo]

Of course its great that the hiveminds from silicon valley are the ones controlling the flow of information to people.

"BuT GuuGLe AnD FaaCeBUUK aRe IndEPENdant COMpanies!!!"

The medium they have created need to be put under control by the people.
It's democracy that should decide what we are allowed to listene too, not certain rich individuals.

Come on...so many so called "socialists" here now defending the rich man and his right to regulate what people are allowed to read.

How very Leninist of you.

You are free to listen to what you want, and free to associate with whomever you like. Business owners should be free to do the same. You are the one opposing the First Amendment here. The irony of you being the socialist is quite adorable.

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There is an inconsistency about being a socialist and giving the control of flow of information to rich individuals heading major companies.
That have absolute control of such a powerful tool that is information, and not giving the reins to the people of the nation.

But sellouts like you are not a new phenomena are they

So, you want more socialism? No thanks.

[gondrin]

It's a fucking Twitter account lol, you realise he's only the second President to even have a Twitter account right?

He can make speeches, he can give press conferences, he can address congress, he can go on the news... of course news agencies may choose not to run his nonsense either, which before this idiot became President was never a question. Any other President would have news agencies falling over themselves to get an interview with the President. He's absolutely, 100% done this to himself. It's quite a feat considering these places all covered for him for four years and only now is it finally too fucking much for them all.

Probably the reason he isn't using any other avenue to make speeches right now is (a) he's shitting his pants, and (b) his aides are desperately trying to stop him further incriminating himself.

Twitter must be patting itself on the back right now with the way everyone's talking about it like it's fundamental to our society. It's a shitty social network, a ploy designed to harvest your personal info to on-sell to advertisers by convincing you to hang out and post inane drivel in a giant trash fire. Just like Facebook and all the others.

Didn't the White House also have to hold a job fair to get people to work there. People used to want to work at the White House. It was a badge of honor and was used to further ones career.

[Machismo]

No, Why would I hate on socialism when I have grown up in one of the most civilized nations the planet has ever seen? Much of that thanks to aspects of socialism.
We actually have a communist party in parlament, one among many. Which givs us a much broader political choice than your shitty two party system.

Regulation is important, not just tech but everything. I would trust the will of the people more than one person with A LOT to gain.

Luckily, we have The First Amendment in the United States.

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The problem is that you are pretending to be willfully ignorant to what would happen if companies are given such power.
Like you dont care who moderates, as long as it is moderated the way YOU want it.

You are always free to take your business elsewhere.

[Timester]

There is an inconsistency about being a socialist and giving the control of flow of information to rich individuals heading major companies.
That have absolute control of such a powerful tool that is information, and not giving the reins to the people of the nation.

But sellouts like you are not a new phenomena are they

Nationalization of industry is the base of a socialist society, what the hell are you talking about?

[Machismo]

Half of the Americans are getting their "news" through Facebook. How is that far fetched then?
It means that a private company is controling the medium for half the country, and that's not even counting the rest of the world.

https://marketingland.com/pew-resear...acebook-228001

Ummm, news stations are almost all private companies.. including in your country, I believe. Would you prefer to only have state-run news... like in North Korea?

[Felya]

what i care about is denying freedom of speach to people anywhere in world.

The reason the second Amendment exists, is because the British government, would force red coats to stay in American homes. Gun ownership, hinged on the idea that government can’t force you to have people you don’t want in your house, from being in your house.

The idea that private enterprise is taking away your freedom, by telling to leave their property... is an abhorrent abomination of freedom.

and this is what just started on mass scale.

Really? Did you know that Gab suffered the same fate years ago... did you know what their solution was? Was it going to China to be free from people banning the president? Was it moving to some other free country? Fuck it... I’ll just tell you...

The solution was hosting their own content, instead of paying someone else to do it.

But... you cry freedom being taken away, because government can’t force you to carry their favorite social media.

[Mormolyce]

Also, conspiracy theories are against the rules of this forum.

And yet here's Shalcker still posting his nonsense year after year, literally employed to peddle conspiracy theories.

[Machismo]

Trump is a clown and i couldnt care less about him

what i care about is denying freedom of speach to people anywhere in world.

and this is what just started on mass scale.

its not about Trump as Trump - its about fb/twitter silencing President of United States.

You are the one opposing freedom of speech. Companies like Twitter and Facebook also have First Amendment rights, and you want to deny them those rights.

So, maybe you should stop opposing freedom of speech, if you actually gave a shit about freedom of speech.

Or, am I to assume I can come to your house (on your property), yell racist shit at your family, and you shouldn't be able to do anything about it?

[Mormolyce]

Trump is a clown and i couldnt care less about him

what i care about is denying freedom of speach to people anywhere in world.

Well you can rest easy, because nobody's freedom of speech has been infringed upon here.

If you violated the forum rules right here, you'd be banned. It's MMO-C's forum and they can make any rules they want. Twitter is no different.

Basically imagine a poster on here who broke the site rules for three years and the mods refused to take any action because that poster was a celebrity in the real world. Everyone else has to abide by the rules, but not this guy. Then finally everyone is sick of his shit and MMO-C bans him. That's what's exactly happened to Trump.

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Didn't the White House also have to hold a job fair to get people to work there. People used to want to work at the White House. It was a badge of honor and was used to further ones career.

Yep. Highest honour in the country in fact.

Remember that time even Fox News had to wind up Trump like a crank caller? LOL.

[Dhrizzle]

im not sure that the fact that a single corporation is able to censor and destroy arguable the most influential global leader is a fact to celebrate

if they have no problem censoring president of USA they have no problem to censor and destroy literaly whole nations globalwide.

quoting openheimer : "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds'" - its not that different in the effect it could have on world's future then atom bomb dropped on hiroshima.

Twitter has neither censored nor destroyed the president, they're just not letting him on their platform. His house has an entire room full of journalists and cameras where he can hold press conferences and have them broadcast across the world on most major and some minor outlets.

As for destroying nations, very few countries (if any) owe their continued existence to easily being able to send out messages of 140 characters or less.

[Shalcker]

Yes. When you actually look at the context and stop cherrypicking in bad faith in order make false equivalencies about Nancy Pelosi for a position you're only playing devil's advocate for anyway.

The context is that most people came to Capitol as "moral support" for Republicans in Congress - exactly as Trump said, no double meanings - and remained outside.

Out of ~20k crowd as far as i know something like a hundred (if even that) entered the building.

Hell, that video of representatives getting out from chamber had those Republicans droning into microphone about their election concerns.

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This wasn’t a bad decision. If anything, more hate sites need to be taken down. Gab. Storefront. The very concept of free speech is fucked when it can be used to radicalise people into committing acts of violence. People keep relating banning sites like this to ‘China’. China doesn’t ban their own President for hate speech...

Parler isn't "hate site" though; it is creation of "free speech absolutists" in vein of Ron Paul.

[jonnysensible]

so anyone check if thier neighbours are on parler : https://kylemcdonald.net/parler/map/

if you find an id near you, theres https://twitter.com/GriffinMalone6/s...51920943345666 to have a look at thier posts/vids i think

[Timester]

Out of ~20k crowd as far as i know something like a hundred (if even that) entered the building.

If even that? Are you trying to retcon the hundredS we all saw, live, breaking into the Capitol?

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so anyone check if thier neighbours are on parler : https://kylemcdonald.net/parler/map/

if you find an id near you, theres https://twitter.com/GriffinMalone6/s...51920943345666 to have a look at thier posts/vids i think

It just shows how shitty Parler actually is.

[Dhrizzle]

I think it is an issue when something like Amazon can just decide to take out businesses on their own. Today it is Parler, but tomorrow they might start getting in over their heads. It is quite different from Twitter and a dangerous different at that, in my opinion.

Parler were told repeatedly that they were breaking the terms and conditions of AWS and were given plenty of time to sort shit out.

[Shalcker]

If even that? Are you trying to retcon the hundredS we all saw, live, breaking into the Capitol?

Show me those hundreds inside.

Surely there is site that can count everyone who got in?

All videos and photos i've seen are quite sparse on headcount in view.