Should Trump be Impeached <again>

[Kaleredar]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...tType=amp&s=09



More in the link but damn, is the Rudy/Trump bromance finally gonna come to an end?

It likely will when Rudy stops getting his 20,000 a day.

[DingDongKing]

It's not news to us, either; he was clear that the Senate is out of session until the 19th as early as last week.

I know: there’s still people acting all surprised.

[Kathranis]

Stop letting your self get played by McConnell. Or the reporters that fawn over him. They're just praying for invites to his next cocktail party.

Don't think anyone here was expecting the turtle to expedite the trial and get it done before inauguration. I do think he'd support or not stand in the way of conviction if he thought it'd be politically advantageous, though, which really depends on what happens between now and then.

If Trump had kept shitting the bed it would be more likely. Losing his Twitter probably saved his ass, ironically. Now the Republicans are moving on to the standard "let's unify and heal" phase of the abusive relationship though, and the press is going to indulge them like usual. So it's looking more likely now that they'll let him slide again.

I also don't think a Trump 2024 bid is feasible anyway. He's looking at major financial trouble and has lost support from major donors. His social media presence is null. Facing legal challenges that could bury him.

But we'll see.

[Kaleredar]

I know: there’s still people acting all surprised.

Perhaps McConnell in his usual scheming intends to kick the can down the curb until the 20th so that the democrats will officially be "in control" of the senate so as to direct any Trumpkin ire towards the democrats should they elect to remove Trump after the fact, which will then conveniently benefit the Republicans in ensuring that Trump doesn't run again or serve as a spoiler candidate.

Or perhaps, like I've said before, they're simply trying to plead the fifth on all things Trump, essentially trying to distance themselves from any and all Trump news so that people forget they had any involvement one way or the other in it in a hopes to both appeal to moderate voters who wanted Trump gone (the GOP would claim they were out of session so couldn't vote on it) and appeal to the Trump cultists because the GOP didn't technically ever vote to remove the cultist's god-king from power.

[Egomaniac]

Have to share:

[Mormolyce]

Imagine having more impeachments than presidential terms.

But he served for the same length of time that the Confederacy existed, surely he'll be happy with that.

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Without Trump goading them on (and ESPECIALLY if he's disqualified from running for office,) I think the majority of Trump's cult will just file back into the ranks of the GOP. They don't have the attention span to remember what the GOP did or did not do two years prior to 2022, especially if the GOP is back on their normal bullshit of blaming the democrats for everything and telling them socialist immigrant boogeymen are coming to rape their jobs. They'll be far more afraid of that than they will care about what some members of the GOP did or said two years prior.

They don't have to remember, the right wing propaganda machine that created Trump remains in place, more determined than ever. Trump is merely a symptom, there will be more.

We're up to "Beer Hall Putsch" on the Nazi clock.

[beanman12345]

can't help it....

[Kaleredar]

They don't have to remember, the right wing propaganda machine that created Trump remains in place, more determined than ever. Trump is merely a symptom, there will be more.

We're up to "Beer Hall Putsch" on the Nazi clock.

The point is is that they wont remain loyal to Trump. Most of them will slog back to being in the GOP, especially now with Trump silenced.

[Draco-Onis]

Without Trump goading them on (and ESPECIALLY if he's disqualified from running for office,) I think the majority of Trump's cult will just file back into the ranks of the GOP. They don't have the attention span to remember what the GOP did or did not do two years prior to 2022, especially if the GOP is back on their normal bullshit of blaming the democrats for everything and telling them socialist immigrant boogeymen are coming to rape their jobs. They'll be far more afraid of that than they will care about what some members of the GOP did or said two years prior.

But Trump is not going to go away no matter how hard the GOP tries, his entire way of making money now is milking the base. He is vindictive so he will turn them against the GOP especially if they vote to ban him from office.

[Bodakane]

I know a lot of these Republican senators are going to claim they fear for their lives so they voted no, but every Dem and 10 repubs are also in just as much danger. So since this happened virtually straight down party lines, either the fear is bullshit, or now provably, the Republicans are the literal party of cowards.

[Machismo]

I know a lot of these Republican senators are going to claim they fear for their lives so they voted no, but every Dem and 10 repubs are also in just as much danger. So since this happened virtually straight down party lines, either the fear is bullshit, or now provably, the Republicans are the literal party of cowards.

If they fear for their lives, that means that they are admitting their party is filled with violent extremists... and they rely on those violent extremists to remain in power.

[Ripster42]

wait congress should spend the next 7 days focused on transition? uh, senate is out of session for the next 6 days. basically "we need the next 6 days to get in our final bit of sitting on our asses after not doing our jobs for years because in 7 days, which is when I lose my ability to completely obstruct, and we'll have to actually, do some work."

Committee meetings still happen when the senate is not in session.

[Krakan]

If they fear for their lives, that means that they are admitting their party is filled with violent extremists... and they rely on those violent extremists to remain in power.

I mean they seem more desperate to simply change sides since they think the winds of change are blowing. I am extremely skeptical of any politician suddenly " seeing the light" once they become the minority power.

[Kaleredar]

But Trump is not going to go away no matter how hard the GOP tries, his entire way of making money now is milking the base. He is vindictive so he will turn them against the GOP especially if they vote to ban him from office.

I seriously doubt the scope of his influence if he’s banned from social media, ignored by the GOP institution, mainstream right-wing squawk boxes like Fox won’t have him, and on top of all of it he’s up to his eyeballs in legal battles.

[Edge-]

I mean they seem more desperate to simply change sides since they think the winds of change are blowing. I am extremely skeptical of any politician suddenly " seeing the light" once they become the minority power.

What about if they suddenly change sides right after an angry mob comes to kill/kidnap them?

[Krakan]

What about if they suddenly change sides right after an angry mob comes to kill/kidnap them?

I think it makes them unprincipled but I admit I hold elected officials to a high standard.

[Edge-]

I think it makes them unprincipled but I admit I hold elected officials to a high standard.

What's the "principled" thing for them to do?

[BeepBoo]

What's the "principled" thing for them to do?

IMO they should admit they fucked up and resign because, any way you look at it, they end up as wholly unfit for the job. If they were ignorant to the fact that something like this COULD actually happen as a result of their constant political message and direction, they're too stupid for the job. If they were actually hoping this would happen but they ended up losing, then they're too evil for the job.

[Zeth Hawkins]

Democrats went 222-0 today.

It didn't happen in 1868, in 1998, or in 2019. Tulsi, the congress person from Putin, voted "not present" in 2019. This is why Tulsi and her onlyfans are so sus.

Fringe left partisanship is quite a thing when one of their lies can lead to a presidential impeachment.

[Edge-]

Fringe left partisanship is quite a thing when one of their lies can lead to a presidential impeachment.

Weird to call the most bipartisan impeachment of all the time "fringe left partisanship".