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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    The video is pretty wild. And he's apparently a registered Democrat who has voted Democrat, so he's not a secret MAGA dude. Just someone who is much smarter than MAGA dudes.
    That kid deserves a medal...
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    The Secretary of Pillowforts hasn't given up yet. Just today he was talking to Trump about what should be done next.





    The "trigger emergency powers" and "insurrection act" and "martial law" bits certainly stand out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by For_The_Horde View Post
    The Secretary of Pillowforts hasn't given up yet. Just today he was talking to Trump about what should be done next.

    The "trigger emergency powers" and "insurrection act" and "martial law" bits certainly stand out.
    Iran and China stood out for me... that sounds like a false flag attack...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Iran and China
    So claiming Iran and China attacked the election, which (a) is a change from it being Democrats (b) they have no evidence (c) why would they, Trump was going to lose anyhow?

    Trump still has four days to start a war, but I don't see that happening. He's out of allies, including the military.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redwyrm View Post
    And North Carolina
    Shit forgot about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    *ahem*

    An FBI affidavit filed this week details how one Trump supporter who participated in the Capitol siege turned over evidence of his alleged crimes to an FBI agent.



    "Sounds pretty stup--"

    Oh, wait for it.



    "Man, that's really st--"

    I said wait for it.



    Holy shit, that's nearly terminal levels of stupidity.

    Sorry, you were saying?

    - - - Updated - - -



    Ah ah ah, gotta interrupt you. Don't forget, Trump is now a Deep Left State Plant ("almond") who fits these same categories.

    Nah, just kidding. It doesn't take that much to be smarter than the MAGA dudes, see post from 60 seconds ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Iran and China stood out for me... that sounds like a false flag attack...
    Funny how conservatives are constantly projecting. This was their claim despite no evidence with Clinton and Obama. Yet there were signs it could be a possibility for W. Bush and Trump. But the dems are the warhawking fascists, that constantly grow the government and wast taxpayers money. Despite that really only happening under conservative rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by For_The_Horde View Post
    The Secretary of Pillowforts hasn't given up yet. Just today he was talking to Trump about what should be done next.

    The "trigger emergency powers" and "insurrection act" and "martial law" bits certainly stand out.
    Neither of these things would accomplish what they think it would accomplish. Never underestimate the stupidity of criminals.

    Related: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021...-confused.html

    Intelligencer spoke with a person fitting that exact description — a cyber attorney based out of Fort Meade — who expressed confusion on Friday afternoon at apparent plans for him to be involved in a coup. This Frank Colon described himself as “just a government employee who does work for the Army.” He seemed befuddled why he would floated to the president in any senior role and said that he never met Lindell, although “I’ve seen him on TV.” (Lindell did not respond to a request for comment.)

    Colon said “I get called into a lot of projects for the Pentagon,” including Operation Warp Speed, but that it “would be odd to reach that far down” in the Defense Department for a role like national security advisor, “but people know me in the Pentagon because there’s just not a lot of [people doing cyber law].”
    This dude's main tools for planning this coup attempt proposal was Google search and Wikipedia. Fascist incompetence would be hysterical if it weren't so dangerous.
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    Not sure if this got lost in the whole insurrection crap that's been going on, but every county in GA has certified as of a couple hours ago, secretary of state has signed off, both inside trading losers have conceded. Kemp has until the 22nd but likely will certify tuesday(since monday is holiday) which means likely ossoff and warnock will likely be sworn in wednesday or maybe thursday depending on the logistics since not exactly sure what's all happening for the inauguration stuff happening, doesn't really take much to swear someone in, but crazy shit is possibly going down so it's a little unknown. But they'll be sworn in mid week likely regardless.

    https://www.11alive.com/article/news...7-5b8e5343092c

    local news, sorry for those geoblocked, but my post is a TLDR anyways with my own bits added to their speculation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    I was just reading through this thread of FBI interviewing suspects in the Capitol terrorist attack. They're all just soooooo fucking stupid.
    Well I mean, the main operant factor is that they're Trump supporters, sooooo...

    I guess if nothing else it makes the FBI's jobs incredibly easy. Hell, this likely could have been avoided entirely (for as much as these rubes were talking about it prior to it happening) if requisite policing bodies had actually taken the notion seriously. But as has been said... they didn't figure white people with guns would be an issue, obviously.
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    Kaleredar is right...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    Uh, that's not true at all. The House still advances the interests of the more populous states, simply because those interests are naturally the same as those of the people who reside in those states.



    There have been examples given in this discussion already. But it could be anything, though quite often it would be seen in the disparity of government support for industries found in low- and high-population areas. More tax-cuts for companies that do well in big cities, but none for those who operate in more rural areas, that kind of thing.

    It doesn't happen that often these days because of the Senate's existence.



    Why do I need to repeat everything we've just been talking about?

    Without the Senate, there's no check on the power of the majority. Without the House, there's an imbalance of power favoring the minority. With both, they have a tendency to oscillate, as too much in one direction tends to force a push back in the other, keeping things balanced.

    Honestly, I'd be fine if the Senate had some less authority/power than the House, as long as they could provide the same check to the House, because I think the majority is more often correct than the minority, though not always.

    Counter question: why do you think the majority is always correct? What's the worst thing you can imagine with only a population-representative legislature?
    Yeah, this is pointless, without examples I can't actually talk about this at all. Sorry for wasting your time, I don't have the time to search this thread for examples of house and or senate votes on state matters. The only thing I can take from this is that your system seems to be a bit broken if there's a disparity in government support depending on where those industries are compared to how fucked they are.

    I don't think the majority is always correct, I just think that the senate/house system is outdated and not a good check&balance anymore. Senators in my mind have way too much power. There should be an independent apolitical group that checks every legislation before (or depending on the urgency, after) it's going to the votes for key issues like discrimination and overall impact.

    Also, the time between handing-over of office should be as short as possible without the "losing" party being able to still implement laws and regulations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Well I mean, the main operant factor is that they're Trump supporters, sooooo...
    The issue with this type of blanket reductive criticism is summarized pretty well by Russell Brand here (link to relevant time slot). Sure these people are kind of dumb, a lot are racists and they lack any critical understanding of how Trump was for them personally. BUT, as an expression of existential anger at vast amounts of wealth being stolen from them I have a hard time disagreeing with that aspect of their movement:

    youtu.be/orad8gIfCiY?t=268

    I find it sinister the way this issue is marginalized so people go back to their favourite subject: identity politics. Blacks think black, whites think white and the ruling class cleans up by thinking green.
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    Quote Originally Posted by voicelander View Post
    The issue with this type of blanket reductive criticism is summarized pretty well by Russell Brand here (link to relevant time slot). Sure these people are kind of dumb, a lot are racists and they lack any critical understanding of how Trump was for them personally. BUT, as an expression of existential anger at vast amounts of wealth being stolen from them I have a hard time disagreeing with that aspect of things:

    youtu.be/orad8gIfCiY?t=268

    I find it sinister the way this issue is marginalized so people go back to their favourite subject: identity politics. Blacks think black, whites think white and the ruling class cleans up by thinking green.
    Vast amount of wealth are being stolen from them, so they voted in the millionaire grifter that spent 4 years stealing as much money as possible, and the conservative party who's modus operandi is to fuck the general population and enrich the rich even more.

    As Keleredar said, the entire group is dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    Vast amount of wealth are being stolen from them, so they voted in the millionaire grifter that spent 4 years stealing as much money as possible, and the conservative party who's modus operandi is to fuck the general population and enrich the rich even more.

    As Keleredar said, the entire group is dumb.
    Yes but you people want to vote in a democrat party that wants to fuck the general population and enrich the rich even more. You didn't give those people any alternatives or even pretend to address their concerns. What did you expect? Of course if you write that group off then they are going to support any narrative which addresses their concerns-whether its dumb or not. This was like a ghost dance for under-educated white people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voicelander View Post
    Yes but you people want to vote in a democrat party that wants to fuck the general population and enrich the rich even more. You didn't give those people any alternatives or even pretend to address their concerns. What did you expect? Of course if you write that group off then they are going to support any narrative which addresses their concerns-whether its dumb or not. This was like a ghost dance for under-educated white people.
    lol, wut? The Democrat party is the one talking about raising the taxes, especially those taxes of the rich. What you're saying makes absolutely no sense unless you've been brainwashed and normally reside in an echo chamber consisting of Shitfart and Faux News.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voicelander View Post
    Yes but you people want to vote in a democrat party that wants to fuck the general population and enrich the rich even more. You didn't give those people any alternatives or even pretend to address their concerns. What did you expect? Of course if you write that group off then they are going to support any narrative which addresses their concerns-whether its dumb or not. This was like a ghost dance for under-educated white people.
    Democrats in the House led by Pelosi put a bill that was a $2k stimulus bill for the general population. Republicans in the Senate led by McConnell blocked it. This is not the only example of democrats trying to funnel money to Trump supporters as well as non-Trump supporters throughout the country and republicans blocking it, it is only the most recent example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voicelander View Post
    Yes but you people want to vote in a democrat party that wants to fuck the general population and enrich the rich even more. You didn't give those people any alternatives or even pretend to address their concerns. What did you expect? Of course if you write that group off then they are going to support any narrative which addresses their concerns-whether its dumb or not. This was like a ghost dance for under-educated white people.
    Democrats have been campaigning on raising the minimum wage, providing affordable or free healthcare, forgiving college loans, making higher education more accessible, and paying for it all by raising taxes on the wealthy.

    How do you keep voting for the Sheriff of Nottingham and then turn around and call Robin Hood an elitist? Christ, Republican voters are dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathranis View Post
    Democrats have been campaigning on raising the minimum wage, providing affordable or free healthcare, forgiving college loans, making higher education more accessible, and paying for it all by raising taxes on the wealthy.

    How do you keep voting for the Sheriff of Nottingham and then turn around and call Robin Hood an elitist? Christ, Republican voters are dumb.
    I don't think he's a republican voter. I think that's the guy who attacks anyone who in the UK isn't sucking off Jeremy Corbyn metaphorically and anyone slightly to the right of Corbyn is a far right loon in his eyes.

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    Twitter asshole Baked Alaska has been arrested for being part of the Capitol riot.

    So on the whole I'd say it's a pretty good start to the weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    Twitter asshole Baked Alaska has been arrested for being part of the Capitol riot.

    So on the whole I'd say it's a pretty good start to the weekend.
    The FBI is also using his livestream he did while in the Capitol to track down others involved in this. Their own stupidity is backfiring on them hard.

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