Republicans legit once?

[Kaleredar]

GOP Lawyers, had a very bad Sunday Morning, legit.

These people knew what they were getting into, or, if they went to freakin' harvard, should have known.

They all deserve to go down with the Trump ship.

[Thepersona]

Pretty much, Reagan set the stage for our current shitty situation. Possibly the father or at least the catalyst of "trickle down economics" that has been a plague on this nation - almost literally. Increasing poverty over the last 50 years has killed more people than covid. and the flu combined, and even more than that.

Simple fact is trickle down economics is disgustingly incorrect way of empowering the poor. You don't give corporations money with zero stipulation and hope they use it to create jobs. Corporations will take the money they are given and put it towards their overall profits. If they need to make a job, they will make a job by simple virtue that that job is profitable. They will not make jobs simply because some entity gives them money and says "Here, we want you to make jobs with it, but we really don't care what you do with it". And yet every schmuck in the Republican party has been sold the biggest lie of the last half century that will someday lead to the biggest economic crash in our nation's history.

And of course, when that does happen, socialism will be blamed without a hint of irony, even though trickle down economics has been our operating policy since 1970.

For the third time, Trickle down economics must die a gruesome death. We were the cradle of that shitty economic policy, and now we need to kill it,

[postman1782]

Lol I’m gonna stop you right there. Reagan was one of the great U.S. Presidents. Nixon would have been great as well if not for Watergate.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...orian-ranking/

Most other lists look pretty similar. I linked that one though because it’s actual historians ranking them.

No, Reagan is actually one of the worst presidents in recent history with this bullshit about Trickle Down Economics. His racist policies and AIDS epidemic response and crack policies make him worse.

[MCMLXXXII]

Good ol' president Reagan. Who traded guns for cocaine from Nicaragua which flooded the american inner citites? Which led to a war on drugs that made the prison population grow with 800%? Which eventually made Clinton fund the police so that they were almost a military.

[Mihalik]

They had intellectuals like William Buckley

People who think Buckley was some sort of luminary never actually listened to or read Buckley or are idiots. Buckley was influential in conservative circles, but today's GOP is very much Buckley's brain child. All the racist, authoritarian, anti-intellectual, trickle down economics bullshit talking points were shaped into a publicly acceptable form by Buckley. That was his gift. He managed to make dumb shit sound smart.

He wasn't particularly bright either, more or less in the same league as Ben Shapiro and Ted Cruz. He just did it first.

Is this how the Republican party always was? Or were they a legit party once?

The GOP first started steering into the realm of nonsense in the 1920's. The New Deal era gave them a massive asskicking, forcing them back towards the center, but it also made them just a copycat Democratic party, so when the civil rights movement started they latched themselves onto the segregationist/racist bandwagon to effectively completely grab hold of the South. Then in the 80's they jumped onto the Evangelical bandwagon to take hold of the Midwest and North-West and to reinforce their hold in the South. It's a strategy to worked great for them for about 40 years. Allowing them to rig elections, suppress votes etc.

Today's GOP is that coalition, of the 1920's robber barons, the 1950's racists, the 1980's religious lunatics and anti government maniacs, with a sprinkling of post WW2 Red Scare anti-leftists and in the last few years the locked down the conspiracy loons demographic too. A "big tent" of fucking lunacy.

The GOP spent a good 100 years evolving into the dumpster fire it is today.

[gondrin]

Good ol' president Reagan. Who traded guns for cocaine from Nicaragua which flooded the american inner citites? Which led to a war on drugs that made the prison population grow with 800%? Which eventually made Clinton fund the police so that they were almost a military.

To be fair on the police thing, it was somewhat the fault of this event. It caused police nationwide to start to arm themselves more with high powered weapons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout

[Mihalik]

Lol I’m gonna stop you right there. Reagan was one of the great U.S. Presidents. Nixon would have been great as well if not for Watergate.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...orian-ranking/

Most other lists look pretty similar. I linked that one though because it’s actual historians ranking them.

I'm gonna stop right there lol.

What you're doing is called "argumentum ad populum", as "something is true because a lot people believe it to be true". With other words..."Eat shit, it's good, 10 trillion flies can't be wrong."

Nixon was a measurably better president than Reagan. Reagan was by all OBJECTIVE metrics one of the worst presidents of the 20th of century. Up there with great names like Herbert Hoover, George W. Bush and Donald "The idiot fascist" Trump. Basically 3 of the last 4 Republican presidents have the honor of being some of the worst presidents in American history.

[Adam Jensen]

Lol I’m gonna stop you right there. Reagan was one of the great U.S. Presidents. Nixon would have been great as well if not for Watergate.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...orian-ranking/

Most other lists look pretty similar. I linked that one though because it’s actual historians ranking them.

Reagan?

The guy who brought us Iran-Contra and the lie of trickle down economics?

Fuck Ronald Reagan, he was one of the worst.

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I'm gonna stop right there lol.

What you're doing is called "argumentum ad populum", as "something is true because a lot people believe it to be true". With other words..."Eat shit, it's good, 10 trillion flies can't be wrong."

Nixon was a measurably better president than Reagan. Reagan was by all OBJECTIVE metrics one of the worst presidents of the 20th of century. Up there with great names like Herbert Hoover, George W. Bush and Donald "The idiot fascist" Trump. Basically 3 of the last 4 Republican presidents have the honor of being some of the worst presidents in American history.

Bush Sr gets a lot of credit for just being boring lol.

He did some bad things, and some good things, but nothing outstanding.

[Calfredd]

I'm gonna stop right there lol.

What you're doing is called "argumentum ad populum", as "something is true because a lot people believe it to be true". With other words..."Eat shit, it's good, 10 trillion flies can't be wrong."

Nixon was a measurably better president than Reagan. Reagan was by all OBJECTIVE metrics one of the worst presidents of the 20th of century. Up there with great names like Herbert Hoover, George W. Bush and Donald "The idiot fascist" Trump. Basically 3 of the last 4 Republican presidents have the honor of being some of the worst presidents in American history.

Reagan?

The guy who brought us Iran-Contra and the lie of trickle down economics?

Fuck Ronald Reagan, he was one of the worst.

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Bush Sr gets a lot of credit for just being boring lol.

He did some bad things, and some good things, but nothing outstanding.

Not to defend muto but you can look at the breakdown in the chart and see that you both are sort of right; he was right that Reagan ranks highly but you are also right because what ranks him highly, what is inflating his score so much, are the attributes that really don't matter as a whole. I mean, seriously, 90/100 for Public Persuasion, and 84/100 for Vision/Setting an Agenda whereas Economic Management is a 60/100 and then there's these stinkers Administrative Skills 47/100 and Pursued Equal Justice for All is 44/100. The stats rate him highly but only because of what everyone already knew; he was a good speaker that made you feel good.

[Pendragon]

Imagine thinking only the repubs are corrupt lmao

[Themius]

Imagine thinking only the repubs are corrupt lmao

They both are, just republicans more so.

If we were talking the 90s... or even early 00s they were virtually the same party...

[Mihalik]

Imagine thinking only the repubs are corrupt lmao

They are all corrupt, that's not the question.

Tho, one side is corrupt, but occasionally by sheer accident will do the bare minimum to prevent the country and the world from descending into The Purge/Handmaid's Tale.

The other side, Republicans, look at the Purge/Handmaid's Tale as aspirational material.

[Ripster42]

These people knew what they were getting into, or, if they went to freakin' harvard, should have known.

They all deserve to go down with the Trump ship.

Pretty sure douchewitch is just trying to do two things at once: stay out of jail and maintain a high enough profile where he can still work as a firm's figurehead to recruit clients.

[Vash The Stampede]

It's the democrats who are corrupt. The republicans are just plain evil.

Why not both?

[PACOX]

They never were. The Civil War era party of the same name isn't the same thing. The Republicans after the parties switched have definitely been clowns and then Reagan came. Now clowns dress up Republicans.

I think it still might be recent for some to see how much damage Reagan has really done.

[Vash The Stampede]

Pretty much, Reagan set the stage for our current shitty situation. Possibly the father or at least the catalyst of "trickle down economics" that has been a plague on this nation - almost literally. Increasing poverty over the last 50 years has killed more people than covid. and the flu combined, and even more than that.

In my opinion the worst thing that Reagan has done is make stock buy backs legal again. He made it legal again in 1982. We made it illegal after the 1929 stock market crash because it's partially responsible for the great depression. Stocks kept going up and people started pouring money into it because it was an easy get rich quick scheme. We're basically in the same situation right now with a stock market that isn't reflecting the real economy, thanks to Reagan.

Simple fact is trickle down economics is disgustingly incorrect way of empowering the poor. You don't give corporations money with zero stipulation and hope they use it to create jobs. Corporations will take the money they are given and put it towards their overall profits. If they need to make a job, they will make a job by simple virtue that that job is profitable. They will not make jobs simply because some entity gives them money and says "Here, we want you to make jobs with it, but we really don't care what you do with it". And yet every schmuck in the Republican party has been sold the biggest lie of the last half century that will someday lead to the biggest economic crash in our nation's history.

Companies will take their money and put it towards their stock. That's how they reward stock holders and themselves. Nobody wants the stock to go down because everything is tied to the stock. CEO's get paid mostly from stock. People's pensions are tied to stock. 401k's are tied to a stock. So of course everyone will do their best to put any source of money into the companies stock, including firing employee's to give a short but profitable stock boost. Then they open up the positions for the jobs they thought they didn't need.

If you haven't figured it out by now, the stock market plays a huge part of why trickle down economies crap doesn't work. If we removed stock buy backs once again then companies maybe motivated to hire more people instead of pumping up their stocks.

And of course, when that does happen, socialism will be blamed without a hint of irony, even though trickle down economics has been our operating policy since 1970.

I think Republicans have stopped with their anti-socialism crap because it went from McCarthyism to "OMG they actually want socialism now". Who doesn't want free healthcare like every other industrialized country in the world? Who doesn't want to feed the hungry? Who doesn't want schools, roads, and museums funded? All the MAGA Republicans will scream in horror as people get helped! Also yes I know it's social programs not socialism, but you even thinking about it proves my point that you Republicans will label everything you don't like as socialism. Trump made socialism seem like a really good idea. Fox news talks about it all the time and everyone knows that Fox news are a bunch of idiots. If Fox news hates Socialism then it must be a good thing. The Republicans can't make up their minds if it's socialism or communism. Why not both?

The Republicans think they're capitalists as well. You guys are workers that fund billionaires like Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, and Elon Musk. They are capitalists and you're not, no matter what you tell yourself.

[Felya]

Why not both?

How is that whole... stop the steal going? Trump still sending out mailers asking for donations, with fine print saying it’s going to pay off his debt?

[Kaleredar]

How is that whole... stop the steal going? Trump still sending out mailers asking for donations, with fine print saying it’s going to pay off his debt?

I'd assume about as well as getting Hillary locked up or getting Mexico to pay for the wall.

[Felya]

The Republicans think they're capitalists as well. You guys are workers that fund billionaires like Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, and Elon Musk. They are capitalists and you're not, no matter what you tell yourself.

Interesting... every single billionaire you listed, has been so for less than 20 years. No mention of Exxon, despite their former CEO being Secretary of State. In fact, no mention of any energy, despite saving coal being Trump’s calling card. How about real estate tycoons like Trump?

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I'd assume about as well as getting Hillary locked up or getting Mexico to pay for the wall.

We are going for evil here... with the assumption that they believe covid is fake and what Trump is doing to children on the border is justified... thus... the evil of ripping off his own supporters.

[Vash The Stampede]

Interesting... every single billionaire you listed, has been so for less than 20 years. No mention of Exxon, despite their former CEO being Secretary of State. In fact, no mention of any energy, despite saving coal being Trump’s calling card. How about real estate tycoons like Trump?

I wasn't being picky of my list of billionaires. Pretty much anyone who is a billionaire is too rich for their own good.