Biden / Harris Focused Discussion

[Thepersona]

It pains me to admit it...no it doesn't, that'd make me a raging hypocrite on the level of Trump supporters...but just because Trump did it, didn't mean it was wrong. Trump had a tendency to consume food to survive, breathe oxygen, and oppose opioids.

I think Biden could use this as an opportunity to get Venezuela to actually make changes, new White House new rules etc. Same with China. Oddly enough, Trump's failure at leadership and negotation might actually give Biden (long experience with foreign relations) a helping hand.

We'll find out together. But you'll understand if there are other things taking his attention right now. Sorry.

That's too bad I dont give a shit about what Maduro and his cronies think, but i really want the Venezuelans to be in a less crappy spot.

Please keep in mind that i say this as a Latin American that's tired of US involvement on this part of the world, so i might be a little bit biased.

[Milchshake]

Question about Biden.. will he kill the Trump era sanctions to Venezuela? Because a lot of them are part of why that country is in a very dire place atm.

Funny you should ask.

Joe Biden just announced an unprecedented review of the impact of U.S. economic sanctions.

[Breccia]

My concern is that the qualities that make someone a great general, don't necessarily transfer to being a quality SecDef.

Mattis is the greatest living general we have. The man is a fucking legend, and is probably third in the list of greatest generals the Marine Corps has ever had. He was a piss poor SecDef.

I'll respect that point while still suggesting at 95-2 support is good news for Gen. Austin specifically without refuting your points generally, if that makes sense.

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Funny you should ask.

Jeez, what are the odds?

Man, I bet all those disingenuous posters saying "yeah but Biden hasn't done anything!" feel really foolish right now.

[Thepersona]

Funny you should ask.

Joe Biden just announced an unprecedented review of the impact of U.S. economic sanctions.

Neat! Thanks for that info

[Machismo]

How much of that was Trump undercutting him every time he had a chance though?

Oh, a great deal. But, Mattis was in charge during multiple internal failures. One of the problems with a lifetime military guy,is the strict adherence to chain of command, and a desire to show a united front. His greatest quality as a general were his inspiring words and his genuine concern for every one of his troops. That was al muted in a bureaucratic post.

[Breccia]

One of the problems with a lifetime military guy,is the strict adherence to chain of command, and a desire to show a united front.

I think we all know what you're getting at. And yeah, we agree. There are some orders that should not be followed.

[Machismo]

I'll respect that point while still suggesting at 95-2 support is good news for Gen. Austin specifically without refuting your points generally, if that makes sense.

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Jeez, what are the odds?

Man, I bet all those disingenuous posters saying "yeah but Biden hasn't done anything!" feel really foolish right now.

The level of support is a good thing. He's a pick that isn't really controversial. And yes,there's a reason they wanted to fill that role early, and with him specifically. It's damn difficult for a politician to oppose a decorated general, without coming across as an asshole on all fronts.

[Milchshake]

I'll respect that point while still suggesting at 95-2 support is good news for Gen. Austin specifically without refuting your points generally, if that makes sense.

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Jeez, what are the odds?

Man, I bet all those disingenuous posters saying "yeah but Biden hasn't done anything!" feel really foolish right now.

The declaration is fairly open-ended .... which makes it a huge deal. Like including a review of sanctions against Cuba.



This is something old-timey socialists and friends have wanted for decades. Like that $15/hr min wage.
When socialism was more about policy than podcast likes.

[Machismo]

I think the problem with Mattis as SecDef had more to do with who the CiC was.

That was a major part of it. But, Mattis didn't make things better for himself. He dropped the ball on major issues, and wasn't the vaunted presence that his legend made him out to be.

[Edge-]

That was a major part of it. But, Mattis didn't make things better for himself. He dropped the ball on major issues, and wasn't the vaunted presence that his legend made him out to be.

Not that I'm disagreeing, but what are you referencing? I don't recall anything like this, but it's been a long 4 years : |

[Machismo]

I think we all know what you're getting at. And yeah, we agree. There are some orders that should not be followed.

There were a few times where I didn't follow orders, or that I showed "disrespect" to superiors. Each time I did so, there was a voice in my brain telling me that my career was over, and I should expect to be punished severely. I still did it, and luckily, never got hammered down for it. I was lucky enough to be in the position that the "superior" was so egregiously in the wrong, that punishing me would have meant highlighting a much larger failure. Thinking back, that happened three times. There were probably a hundred times where I did follow through on orders that were at least a little bit questionable. It's those overwhelming majority of "gray areas" that worries me most. soldiers, even officers, are brainwashed into obedience. It's been 20 years, and I can still recite most of the shit they drilled into our brains, without even thinking about it. The problem with being a good soldier, means quite literally being properly brainwashed. Being a great one, means brainwashing others.

[Poopymonster]

Not that I'm disagreeing, but what are you referencing? I don't recall anything like this, but it's been a long 4 years : |

He was also chosen because Trump thought he'd be all "Glass their ass" and "Kill em all, let God sort em out" testosterone poisoned bullshit.
But Mattis wasn't the star spangled exploding erection Trump thought he was.
Like 3 wives and uncounted others, this time Trump was the one disappointed in the performance. Hype was not reality.
Mattis is damn good, but not how Trump thought he was.

[Machismo]

Not that I'm disagreeing, but what are you referencing? I don't recall anything like this, but it's been a long 4 years : |

There were a few failed ops that should have never gone forward, like in Yemen. There was the Navy security breach, and the deployment of troops to the border.

Those are the ones off the top off my head.

[Breccia]

Like 3 wives and uncounted others, this time Trump was the one disappointed in the performance.

Plus I think Melania has vetoed the stimulus package. AMIRITEBOYZ

[Machismo]

Plus I think Melania has vetoed the stimulus package. AMIRITEBOYZ

Well, it was only 1/3 as big of a stimulus as she wanted. She was promised something much larger!!!

[PACOX]

If someone wanted to be petty they could call out how certain groups groups called out the way the US handles Venezuela while everyone to the right of said group was slinging mud...even praising a certain administration that won't be named. I remember a like of S-ism and C-ism words being thrown around.

That's if someone would like to get petty though.


Glad that Biden will at least 'review' the situation. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt instead of saying what he'll probably end up doing though.

[Felya]

I would like a Cardi B amendment added to the constitution... A president must first take a shit in the White House, before articles of impeachment can be written.

[Themius]

I missed this in all the Theo garbage, but he has certainly done a number of things that help people in his first couple of days.

Yes he had but to call them left or progressive... that part is not true.

A lot of restorative actions. A lot of centrist or centre right actions. I understand to America they’re far left but not to most of the world and it is good to put these things in terms relative to what is normal worldwide.

[gondrin]

I would like a Cardi B amendment added to the constitution... A president must first take a shit in the White House, before articles of impeachment can be written.

Ok, knowing some people, I would change that as they would take it to mean anywhere including the restroom.

[Egomaniac]

I would like a Cardi B amendment added to the constitution... A president must first take a shit in the White House, before articles of impeachment can be written.

Well, I mean...Biden was VP for 8 years. That's a lot of shits.