Go vengeance, there is no reason to play havoc atm. Im sorry bro. On the other hand, your tanking spec is arguably the best one atm.
yeah top dps here https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/st...s/26#boss=2399
Many people consider being within the top 5 as 'top dps', yes.
So yes, DH is top DPS in Mythic right now: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/st...=100&boss=2402
See, I can cherry pick boss fights too.
By the way, Sun King is much closer to a Mythic+ than Sludgefist, so I'm going to guess that Havoc isn't bottom of the barrel for Mythic+ either.
That boss was picked due to it being the DPS check.
Anyhow - zone/statistics/26#sample=7 Is probably what we need to look at to be fair. Couldn't post full link as the account is new, so u'll have to put rest infront by urself.
Demon hunters is not going good, not at all. And the fact that we cannot switch to another dps specc to fix it, is a bummer.
There is noone under us, that doesn't have another dps specc to go to, that is much better than us, wich means DH is the worst dps class currently.
hf.
Its not the worst dps class or spec its actually doing great compared to most other specs so either learn to play properly or reroll, there is also many fights classes can cheese dps to pad meters and that dmg is pointless other than logs, DH is in the top half of all dps classes.
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I don't play DH, I don't have a horse in this race, but I know straight up misinformation when I see it. Boss by boss, let's go.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/st.../26/#boss=2398 Shriekwing, 15th of 24, below 50th percentile.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/st.../26/#boss=2418 Huntsman, 14th of 24, below 50th percentile.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/st.../26/#boss=2383 Hungering, 20th of 24, below 50th percentile.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/st.../26/#boss=2402 Sunking, 14th of 24
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/st.../26/#boss=2405 Artificer, 15th.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/st.../26/#boss=2406 Darkvein, 19th.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/st.../26/#boss=2412 Council, 13th.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/st.../26/#boss=2399 Sludge, 17th of 20.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/st.../26/#boss=2417 Generals, 11th of 14.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/st.../26/#boss=2407 Denathrius, 10th of 14.
Literally there is not a single fight where "DH is in the top half of all DPS classes". If you're in a group that this is the case, you really should be investigating what those people losing to the DH are doing.
im seeing a similar pattern in those logs.
ignoring the last 2 with the exception of 2 bosses there are 2 hunter specs at the bottom, while in all of those dh are mid pack.... this is telling me a lot about what needs buffs more and what needs nerfs (if nerfs will be handed out)
bare in mind that not every spec is represented on generals and because of the way blizz designed sire pet specs will NEVER see that boss unlike havoc dh.
it seems as tho there is nothing "wrong" with havoc dh in this raid mid tier is fine
no im not havoc is mid tier in all those mythic logs bar 1 so no they aren't the worst. looking at those logs warrior is both specs are consistantly bottom fury recently got a buff but not enough to over take dh
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i had another look at those logs and for those that are complaining about a lack of st dps i have to ask you the following.
if havoc has such bad st dps why are they out dpsing mm hunters on artificer and council ( artificer is pure st and council is like nearly pure st)
The difference in dps is about 1k ish so its not that much and that can be attributed to heavy movement and not being able to be on the boss since DH is used for many mechanics because of thier movement, its mainly ranged classes at the top since they are able to maintain more uptime of boss fights.
DH should never compare to anything other than themselves of melee anyway, if your comparing dps to classes that can multidot and hit many targets consistantly then a you would never be happy with your dps.
So yes DH is around middle of the pact overall as long as other dps are not just padding the meters.
You completely ignore all the data that proves that your wrong on DH being the worst dps class in the game, doesnt matter if other classes have a spec that can perform better and the difference in dps is not that large anyway.
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