Shadowlands: Chains of Domination and Burning Crusade: Classic

[Newname1234567890]

lazy content
blizzard is becoming nintendo

Raid, mega dungeon and a new zone (or extension to the Maw maybe) in the first content patch. Sure lazy content.....

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Well...that takes away all excitement from Blizzcon. Was this a leak or what?

Yeah it was a leak

[Gadzooks]

Remember going through the portal with your T3 guild at the same time as a majority of the server, hearing the Hellfire music, seeing all the red, the giant elites, then MASSIVE PVP FIGHTS, trying to quest and having 50 people pvp over killing the quest NPC's.

Nothing will ever compare, period. Can't believe that was 14 years ago.

I got into the BC beta. I walked into Hellfire alone - and ran right into the fel reaver. It was pretty awesome. I was the only one in my guild who got in, but I met some other testers and we ran a bunch of the dungeons. The thing I remember is how fast greens replaced my gear.

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How easy to forget that there is a pandemic and we are all working from home...

How easy it is to blame a condition that's been going on for a year now, and everyone has had plenty of time to adjust. Blizzard included.

[MrLachyG]

I thought for sure we would deal with Baron Vyraz and the rest of the House of the Chosen in either raid or dungeon before taking on the Maw... unless it's being done in a quest

[Newname1234567890]

I thought for sure we would deal with Baron Vyraz and the rest of the House of the Chosen in either raid or dungeon before taking on the Maw... unless it's being done in a quest

Wouldn't surprise me if the Maw Raid has all the remaining covenant storyline line villains thrown in as bosses

[Kiwijello]

It's clear they have a formula they are following now in order to churn out carbon copy expansions. This feels less than exciting. More of the same. Was hoping for something, ANYTHING new. This is just more filler with artwork.

[Jastall]

I thought for sure we would deal with Baron Vyraz and the rest of the House of the Chosen in either raid or dungeon before taking on the Maw... unless it's being done in a quest

They'll either be bosses in the Sanctum, or (preferable IMO) part of a later raid alongside Kel'thuzad.

If Shadowlands follows the blueprint set by Legion and BFA in terms of raids, we'll have 5 in total, maybe 4 if they cut the ToV/CoS style mini raid. Even considering that the final raid will definitely be about the Jailer, there's ample space for a Maldraxxus themed one.

[Argorwal]

It's clear they have a formula they are following now in order to churn out carbon copy expansions. This feels less than exciting. More of the same. Was hoping for something, ANYTHING new. This is just more filler with artwork.

You mean the same formula for 16 straight years of release new quests/zones/dungeons/raids in a patch?

Basically more of what WoW is?

What did you expect, a patch of non-WoW related stuff?

[RobertMugabe]

Leave it to Blizz to do it the stupid way, people should just start fresh in BC but instead they're forcing Classic players to abandon their characters and restart if they don't want to progress

Because all the current Classic players are eagerly waiting for TBC just so they can spend days or weeks leveling through old content again. /s

[Newname1234567890]

It's clear they have a formula they are following now in order to churn out carbon copy expansions. This feels less than exciting. More of the same. Was hoping for something, ANYTHING new. This is just more filler with artwork.

How is this not new?

New raid, new mega dungeon and expansion to a zone. All of that is new.

[valax]

White hair Anduin kinda ties up with that future light vs void comic , Old anduin might not be that old afterall if it turns out LvsV is the next step for the story.

Good thing also that Sylvanas didn't back out from her plans

[MrLachyG]

They'll either be bosses in the Sanctum, or (preferable IMO) part of a later raid alongside Kel'thuzad.

If Shadowlands follows the blueprint set by Legion and BFA in terms of raids, we'll have 5 in total, maybe 4 if they cut the ToV/CoS style mini raid. Even considering that the final raid will definitely be about the Jailer, there's ample space for a Maldraxxus themed one.

you are right I just thought that would happen before we attacked the Maw. while the other 3 zones are all relatively united Maldraxxus is definitely not and the removal of the Baron would allow the forces of Chosen to join

[blankfaced]

The mega dungeons are literally always released mythic only first, then split into two for heroic later on.

Haven't they only done one other "mega" dungeon? Literally always is one other time. And there's literally no reason to do it, other than dividing their player base even further.

15$ a month should be way higher now with inflation. But considering the prie vs let's say gamepass....and ps plus, which gives you load of "free" games constantly. Yeah 15$ per month is high

I fully get that it should be higher. Yes that's the logic train I was taking.

[Argorwal]

Haven't they only done one other "mega" dungeon? Literally always is one other time. And there's literally no reason to do it, other than dividing their player base even further.


I fully get that it should be higher. Yes that's the logic train I was taking.

This will be the 3rd.

Return to Kara in Legion

Mechagon in BFA

Now this one in Shadowlands

[Orwell7]

You mean the same formula for 16 straight years of release new quests/zones/dungeons/raids in a patch?

Basically more of what WoW is?

What did you expect, a patch of non-WoW related stuff?

Tbh if they didn't want to reinvent the wheel every patch/expansion we would have been a lot better...
So yep, constant, regular, "boring" content patches with dungeons, raids, zones, and of course new loot, interesting trinkets, set bonuses.
Oh and let's not forget that Blizz should NOT let specs rot for 2-4 YEARS without revamping them. Constant class tuning is needed, and I don't care if those handful of players at MDA or MDI have to "suffer", I want balanced classes which requires Blizz to do balance patches.

[Argorwal]

Tbh if they didn't want to reinvent the wheel every patch/expansion we would have been a lot better...
So yep, constant, regular, "boring" content patches with dungeons, raids, zones, and of course new loot, interesting trinkets, set bonuses.
Oh and let's not forget that Blizz should NOT let specs rot for 2-4 YEARS without revamping them. Constant class tuning is needed, and I don't care if those handful of players at MDA or MDI have to "suffer", I want balanced classes which requires Blizz to do balance patches.

There has been class tuning adjustments almost every single week per the hotfix and patch note history.

And the player base seems a bit split with some wanting specs changed frequently and others wanting Blizz to stop changing things frequently so some group will never be happy.

As for actual balanced classes, well that hasn’t happened for 16 straight years so not holding my breath.

[Gadzooks]

This will be the 3rd.

Return to Kara in Legion

Mechagon in BFA

Now this one in Shadowlands

Fourth: Blackrock Depths. First mega dungeon, all the way back in vanilla.

[Kithelle]

Because all the current Classic players are eagerly waiting for TBC just so they can spend days or weeks leveling through old content again. /s

But I thought they wanted classic for the old system, if that's true then I guess they never really cared about classic much

[Argorwal]

Fourth: Blackrock Depths. First mega dungeon, all the way back in vanilla.

Touché, and it was not queable as well.

[Tiwack]

Shadowlands: Save the mary-sues from the shadows and crusade with them against the voidlords!

[blankfaced]

This will be the 3rd.

Return to Kara in Legion

Mechagon in BFA

Now this one in Shadowlands

Apologies, I didn't play through legion so I was unaware they rereleased a raid as a dungeon and set a precedent for future dungeon releases.