Sylvanas Windrunner Raid Boss: The Big Elephant in the Room

[Thestrawman]

Here's my idea: We defeat Sylvanas and a cutscenes plays. Tyrande appears and is about to kill Sylvanas. Before the fatal blow can be struck Sylvanas says she's the only one who can free Anduin from the Jailer's control. Tyrande hesitates for a moment before lowering her weapons, breaking the power of the Night Warrior and bringing her back to sanity.

[Stardrift]

If she does die, it will be limp dick as fuck and either be Zovaal to do the "means to an end" trope they've been hinting at, or she'll be killed by a character who has the least to do with her.

If she doesn't die.. which she more than likely won't, she'll prove herself to be the good guy all along, overpower Zovaal, and take control of the Shadowlands and the Maw for herself, turning it into something good or whatever the fuck. The end.

There's no way this shitty fucking storyline will end well, whatsoever. Danuser has the attention span of a gold fish.

[Strawberry]

dios mio not another elf woman obsessed with a human male

Yeah, almost like the stories are written by human males.

[bagina]

Yeah, almost like the stories are written by human males.

Anduin was the self-insert all along. :O

Just think about it, turning the "bad girl" good with your love is a common fantasy.

[omeomorfismo]

Was that before or after Kil'jaeden sent Illidan to try and kill him?


"Using chemical warfare isn't bad because it doesn't affect the forsaken."

Oh, okay then.

since he allied himself with the lk. his first mission was ressing kel'thuzad so he can summon archimonde....

[Strawberry]

Anduin was the self-insert all along. :O

Just think about it, turning the "bad girl" good with your love is a common fantasy.

My fantasy is turning good girl into a bad one
Guess I'm uncommon

[tromage2]

She does not die, she is still a female and in this woke/feminist day of age only males can die.

[Soon-TM]

She does not die, she is still a female and in this woke/feminist day of age only males can die.

Back in the day, female characters in popular media were usually depicted as submissive, pitiable damsels in distress, which most certainly sucked. Today, you can't find nothing but Strong Independent Women™ - and it sucks as well.

[Raetary]

but anyway, how using the plague to cleanse forsaken territory should be bad?

It is very bad if you use it to melt down your own forces.

Also, the Blight was created to harm undead as well.
Whether they have a need for fertile land or not is irrelevant, they can't step foot in there to do anything.

i didnt claim anything.
I am only pointed out that Sylvanas did not destroy her kingdom. she only blew up a city.
She also only destroyed 1 kingdom and that was the Night elves.

She plague bombed Undercity and abandoned the rest of the region.
Most, if not all, Forsaken territory is now under alliance control.

How is that not "destroying a kingdom"?

She does not die, she is still a female and in this woke/feminist day of age only males can die.

You sound bitter, show us where the evil feminist hurt you?

[Jastall]

i didnt claim anything.
I am only pointed out that Sylvanas did not destroy her kingdom. she only blew up a city.
She also only destroyed 1 kingdom and that was the Night elves.

What is Gilneas, then?

And again, it's rather telling that you choose to die on this particular hill rather than even begin to address the entire rest of my initial post.

[sam86]

If you ask me Sylvanas going "fuck literally all of you guys" and committing suicide after being beaten is probably the best way to end her character, by annoying everyone and letting her be the petty bitch she's always been to the end.

with how they writing her, i won't be surprised if that's how it will end
also it fits more that she f8cks everyone and kill us all and be the queen b8tch of wow, that can't work sadly for Nathanos since it means we players dead and won't play wow and pay sh8tload of cash to blizz

[Weeps]

And risk triggering virgin neckbeards? Sylvanas ain't dying a permanent death.

We are already seeing a brand new Sylvanas, like she has Multiple Personality Disorder or something. She seems to have an inkling of conscience, seen during her discussions with Anduin in the cutscenes.

It is too powerful of a story line for blizzard to come up with. It took all of their collective mental fortitude to come up with the poignant Ysera death scene.

[sam86]

Pretty much this. Why is blighting someone so much worse than e.g. burning them alive (mages, warlocks), mindf**king them (shadow priests) or turning them into minced meat (pretty much any melee, with rogues using literal poisons on top)?

warlocks also (old lore, no idea still canon or not) take parts of their victim souls and consume them, they don't just kill u,they fracture ur soul and consume it slowly part by part
thinking about warlock soul shard make even plague a pleasure death, at least ur soul moves afterwards and since u melt u can't be rezzed or trapped (ur soul still can be trapped by auchenai priests technique)

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And risk triggering virgin neckbeards? Sylvanas ain't dying a permanent death.

We are already seeing a brand new Sylvanas, like she has Multiple Personality Disorder or something. She seems to have an inkling of conscience, seen during her discussions with Anduin in the cutscenes.

It is too powerful of a story line for blizzard to come up with. It took all of their collective mental fortitude to come up with the poignant Ysera death scene.

she lost a lot of her fan base, the normal now tbh is hating her not loving her

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Exactly. Meanwhile people complain about Azshara and Nzoth when both made sense. Then again let's be honest BFA was just a huge prepatch for Shadowlands. The same can't really be said of others. The plot for BFA was literally Sylvanas doing things specifically to feed the Jailer. Legion's plot was stopping the Legion, whereas anything BFA related was fairly background level. WoD's plot was stopping the Iron Horde and Guldan was simply a background threat etc.

which is stupid, we talk about 2 huge lore figures like Azshara and Nzoth..
How bfa handled Nzoth is criminally wrong

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I mean she loves telling the truth more than lying especially when it hurts anyone not just him. However, she actually seemed sad and sincere there.

which is a f8cking joke, did she just forget what she did in Teldrassil?
Oh i forgot it is MORALLY GREY

[Traveler Voltin]

What is Gilneas, then?

And again, it's rather telling that you choose to die on this particular hill rather than even begin to address the entire rest of my initial post.

most the kingdom of Gilneas is intact. only the city was hit and the alliance wants to cleanse it.
death wing did more damage than Sylvanas.

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She plague bombed Undercity and abandoned the rest of the region.
Most, if not all, Forsaken territory is now under alliance control.

How is that not "destroying a kingdom"?

so your logic is abandoned=destroyed.
also the horde still controls the forsaken territory.

[meroko]

too many will quit if she dies, myself included

[Varodoc]

Why is it that in a raid about Sylvanas Windrunner, neither Alleria Windrunner nor Vereesa Windrunner will show up? As usual Blizzard never fails to disappoint when it matters the most.

[Traveler Voltin]

Why is it that in a raid about Sylvanas Windrunner, neither Alleria Windrunner nor Vereesa Windrunner will show up? As usual Blizzard never fails to disappoint when it matters the most.

i will agree with that.
also the brother should show up.

[Yarathir]

It's curious, she never gave a flying s**t about others' choices (or rather, lack thereof), but now she suddenly starts caring once the God King is involved.

Yes, because Danuser saw the writing on the wall and realized that she was well on her way out if she continued being a callous tyrant. So she's a tortured soul now. Or at least back to pretending she is, so that she can be rush-redeemed.

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Compared to every other way we kill things in this game? It isn't bad, period.

Nice that you can just decide that, I guess.

[tommyhil622]

Why is it that in a raid about Sylvanas Windrunner, neither Alleria Windrunner nor Vereesa Windrunner will show up? As usual Blizzard never fails to disappoint when it matters the most.

Why are you assuming they aren't? For all we know they may show up at the end, too early to tell atm.

[Ielenia]

So... *rubs tip of blade*
Sylvanas is the final boss of 9.1. There's one big question everyone seems to be ignoring if this does happen...

Who's going to land the killing blow if she does die and how does WoW go on with their 2nd most famous and most iconic female character gone?

No one. She'll boast a big speech about how we're all wrong and she's right because reasons, trip while she's monologuing and fall off into the abyss.

Also, voted Tyrande since there is no "she accidentally kills herself" option.