Should we impose retroactive term limits on the house and the senate? It would be an effective way to get more new blood into the government and get corrupt politicians out. 4-6 year term limits on them would be effective at it.
Should we impose retroactive term limits on the house and the senate? It would be an effective way to get more new blood into the government and get corrupt politicians out. 4-6 year term limits on them would be effective at it.
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If people voted with actual principles, and supported the best people for the job... then this would be entirely unnecessary. If your problem is with incompetent and corrupt politicians who have nothing to offer, then blame the people who keep voting for them.
You would run out of politicians too fast.
I've thought about this myself and it's a good idea to combat what I call "political corruption" (ie. changing your vote not to anger your electorate for the next election, even if you are going against what's smart and sensible). Alas, the price you pay is less experienced politicians. That is, politicians who make bad decisions because they have no long term experience.
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It's an unnecessary regulation since voters can simply not vote for a politician if they are not doing a good job. Or vote against them.
You can always create a million different rules like this in order to control every aspect of government but it's just a distraction from the actual issues and policies that people care about.
Last edited by PC2; 2021-02-25 at 04:54 PM.
Term limits are one of those things that sounds good in theory and in practice is a disaster. Removing people who have been in long enough to actually know how to get things done generally means you are stuck with lobbyists doing even more of the legislative work than is already happening.
It's also fantasy.
I heard a really great analysis on the concept of term limits for Congress and the short version of a very long analysis is you basically trade the existing problems for new ones and you probably don't net out at a positive.
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Yup. One of the largest flaws of representative government is anything that would require those representatives to votes for something not in their own self interest.
This one, however, I think could be more attainable.or getting rid of the ridiculous idea of corporate personhood.
Last edited by PC2; 2021-02-25 at 05:56 PM.
The problem isn't with the notion of corporate personhood. The problem is that corporate personhood isn't =personhood. But the US justice system for purely corrupt reasons choses to apply the benefits of personhood to corporate personhood but none of the legal liabilities and obligations.
What's to stop politicians in their last term from selling their votes to the highest bidder? They won't have to face re-election so they may vote the way corporations want them to so they can get a job once their political career is over.
The revolving door would go even faster. Lobbyists would completely (instead of mostly) run the show. Politicians aren't corrupt and out of touch because they've been in DC for too long. It's not like it's in an alternate dimension where Representatives have no ability to remain connected to their voters. They are corrupt and out of touch because they spend up to half of their time dialing rich people for donations. Wealthy individuals, special interests, and corporations hold an outsized amount of power in our politics and term limits will not fix it- in fact, it would probably only exacerbate it.
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100% agree. If you fix the reasons behind politicians being corrupt and out of touch (to as much extent as you can), you also negate the need for term limits.
"We must make our choice. We may have democracy, or we may have wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both."
-Louis Brandeis
Not only is that not going to happen, it actually shows a lack of understanding about our system of government at a fundamental level.
Our government is heavily borrowed from England's for obvious reasons (minus the monarchy), and essentially the House in the US is based on England's House of Commons, and the Senate on the House of Lords. The general idea being that the House in the US are the shorter-serving voice of the common-folk, vs. the Senate which are the long-serving "wise men" of the government. That's why bills go through both the House and Senate. It's the whole basis of the 2 house system check and balance system of government. If you're proposing Senate term limits, it tosses that foundation of our government out the window. Put more simply, the House is kind of the teenager asking for $20 to go out, and the Senate is the parent deciding if it's a good idea. There's a designed and intentional reason in our system of government that Senators are long-serving. The system is also designed so that Senators can vote on bills based on what's right for the country vs. worrying about an upcoming election, compared to Representatives that can be ousted pretty quickly if their constituents aren't happy with them.
Last edited by Biglog; 2021-02-27 at 02:53 PM.
It would certainly be nice. No person should be able to hold a specific position in political office for more than five years. I am still not sure how I feel about eight years of the Presidency.
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term limits should be a thing for congress being life long politicians shouldn't be a thing
Well then get your shit together.
Get it all together. And put it in a backpack. All your shit. So it’s together. And if you gotta take it somewhere, take it somewhere, you know, take it to the shit store and sell it, or put it in a shit museum, I don’t care what you do, you just gotta get it together.
Get your shit together