I protested at a circus once over the treatment of the elephants and other animals.
A guy started yelling at me, "why are you doing that when people have cancer and how you could use your time for that". So i asked him how come he's going to the circus when people have cancer and how you could use your time for that."
His response? "Fuck you!!!".
That's the day i learned about their plan of attack.
"When Facism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." - Unknown
It won't pass, you're arguing merits, I'm arguing reality: The reality that the Senate might not even vote on the bill in the first place, and if it does that it likely won't even get 50 votes, let alone 60.
I'm sure the court with 6 conservatives would agree with you.
Oh but that's precisely why it's an empty spectacle because they know it will never pass, likely won't even be voted on in the first place in the Senate and you're going to use it to attack Republicans. Yeah Republicans have made their position on this issue clear for years.That doesn't make it "empty spectacle". It means that Republicans are still willing to screw over the public in the name of the unethical retention of power.
Making them demonstrate that malfeasance is valid enough on its own. And means that the Republicans are then responsible for this bill not taking effect.
This might surprise you but politicians are quite capable of making empty gestures with bills ( and overall decisions ) that on a surface level might seem significant but in the end amount to zero except posturing: That's what this bill in and all you're doing is buying into hook line and sinker.This might surprise you, but politicians (indeed, most people) can plan out and work on more than a single project at once, particularly when you divide the work up amongst a body of colleagues, as the federal government does.
You seem to think this is a big deal: It's not, it won't amount to much in long run.
As for the actual issue of voting rights: That IS important and as someone living in a country that has voting when people are free from work as an example it's significant to get people engaged in election. What's also important is that the way elections are organized is dictated by local policy: State or county level, and many states do not want Washington to decide how they organize those elections, which means they'd fight quite hard to retain their power, if this was an actual serious effort.
Which it isn't.
Two years from now if Democrats pick up Senate seats and nuke the filibuster? Then it would actually matter.
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"Life is one long series of problems to solve. The more you solve, the better a man you become.... Tribulations spawn in life and over and over again we must stand our ground and face them."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...l-628-n1259673
WHERE ARE YOUR CHECKS?!
Ask Ron Johnson, he's forcing clerks to read the whole 600+ page bill aloud because "IT'S SO BIG AND COMPLEX" and apparently this is the only way for people to learn what's in it. I guess like, summaries don't exist?
Just a reminder: Democrats have their problems, but they are not the problem.
For the same reason Democrats abandoned any plan to try and raise the minimum wage despite having options to try and do so ( a rule change, or a plan to tax corporations that didn't offer a certain wage level ) they simply do not have the votes for it.
Who knows maybe people like Manchin and Sinema would vote yes on this, maybe, and then you'd see a 50-50 Senate vote, but if they won't you likely wouldn't see Schumer wanting to lose a simple majority vote in the Senate.
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"Life is one long series of problems to solve. The more you solve, the better a man you become.... Tribulations spawn in life and over and over again we must stand our ground and face them."
See, that's the thing.
I draw conclusions based on analysis of the facts and application of reason.
Your counter was to claim 6 SCOTUS judges would ignore both in favor of ruling based on nothing but blind partisanship.
And you don't see how you've defeated your own position by doing so.
I draw conclusions based on the factual reality that exists, not some political ideology wishful thinking. If you can't divorce your view on the merits of a bill, which I have not contested, vs the reality of how things play out, which I have, that's your problem.
My position is simple: The bill is a meaningless piece of showmanship for Democrats because it has no realistic chance of becoming law, and they are fully aware of this.
The Senate Parliamentarian ruled that they couldn't increase the min wage to 15 dollars a month, but they could have overruled her ( Harris to be specific could have done so ) or they could have made a tax change for big corporations to force them to increase their min. wage or face fines, this was called Plan B.
Democrats choose neither option.
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"Life is one long series of problems to solve. The more you solve, the better a man you become.... Tribulations spawn in life and over and over again we must stand our ground and face them."
lol the " fuck your feelings" gop
is butthurt that biden offended..neanderthals?
I heard them saying a few days ago in videos from CPAC I think that it will be the 20th now, when he is supposed to take power, and that Biden is just being puppeted by Trump somehow. https://www.newsweek.com/qanon-theor...e-flag-1573871
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Not surprising. Ron Johnson doesn't work for the American people anymore. He is for Trump and Putin.
https://www.ajc.com/news/nation-worl...CS6KUFCWG6QX4/
Apparently holding "solo press conferences" is a measurement now? It's a thing? And damn Biden for not holding solo press conferences which is apparently a first in the past century?
I guess this is what we're complaining about now.
Since you have been championing Republicans the last few months, you do know that Ron Johnson, just delayed the bill again for Covid relief by making the fucking clerks read the ENTIRE 700 page bill, which will take about 15 hours to read. The House passed it, and the Senate will pass it as soon as it gets there, but Johnson is delaying it.
And what parts of the bill would the Supreme Court take issue with, and what constitutional law degree do you have to know that?
"I hereby motion to add the text 'My name is Ron Johnson and I'm a fucking idioit' to the bill."
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"Biden under increasing media spotlight for lack of news conferences"
Yep, that's a headline only a Trump cultist could have written. Or, did I forget the part where he shut down the WHPC and had McEnemy lie nonstop for a year?
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So easy, even a caveman could do it!