The coolest thing is that all people who do not understand think that there are no video cards because the miners bought it, and not because there is a global separation of economies
One point in history? You mean from like 200 bc until the British leased it???
Tibet though has been considered China for quite a long time... also it was considered so by the west until quite recently which coincides with political tensions between China and the west. The whole point is that the issues are less bout whether they are part of china or not and more about whether the west fancies china or not.
It has been pointed out to you that none of that happened.
The exact polar opposite happened. The trade deficit increased and offshoring accelerated.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsl...shoring-record
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...deficit-466116
I already explained to you once how this happened.
All that while destroying US jobs that were in turn exporting to China.
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Nothing you said is true or even remotely connected to anything called "fact".
If a corporation treats you like shit, who do you appeal to? When a corporation ran by government treats you like shit, who do you appeal to?
The point wasn’t a reflection on communism, but the fact that it’s a symbiotic relationship, where neither of the workers win. Neither one is the badie...
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Tariff is not the answer. Even if we tariff China to death, there are still India, Vietnam, Indonesia, etc. That’s what we have seen happened with Trump’s tariff. Nike moved their operation to Vietnam and Apple to India. Not back to the US.
The US can’t, nor should it attempt to, compete with those countries over low-skilled labor manufacturing. Personally, I don’t care if Nike makes their shoes in Indonesia and Vietnam. Nobody in the US want to stitch Nike’s tops and glue shoes' soles in a Nike factory all day long.
We should instead increase our high-end manufacturing. Like medicine and medical equipment.
Definitely advanced semiconductor manufacturing. There are 3 new 5-nanometer fabs planned in the US now - AZ, TX and AL. Just in case China is crazy enough to launch a military attack on Taiwan.
Lithium mining and processing. California Energy Commission (CEC) just granted 7.8 million to two pilot programs to extract lithium in Imperial Valley. If the process works, it is estimated that there are 6 million tons of extractable lithium in the area. That’s over 100 times of the global annual lithium production which could propel the US into the largest lithium producer and manufacturer in the world. Lithium Valley may be the new buzz word. Another project trying to extract lithium from clay in Arizona. Although, that’s more of a long shot.
Increasing not only US capacity to mine rare earth elements, but also to extract and process them. End our dependent on China for these strategic electronic manufacturing ingredients. There are currently multiple parallel projects in CA, TX, PA, etc.
That’s how we beat China economically.
Interesting article about Lithium - California Wants Its Imperial Valley to Be ‘Lithium Valley’.
And China blasts Biden administration over new restrictions on Huawei
The comments from the Foreign Ministry follow a report from Bloomberg saying the U.S. notified some Huawei suppliers that starting this week more items will be prohibited for use in 5G technology.
The ban targets exporting semiconductors, antennas and batteries that could be used in Huawei's 5G devices, according to Bloomberg.
If the US want, they could totally cripple China's technological development for the next decade. The US control all the global high end semiconductor sources. There are no other alternatives.
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r.i.p. alleria. 1997-2017. blizzard ruined alleria forever. blizz assassinated alleria's character and appearance.
i will never forgive you for this blizzard.
I'm not saying it's one or the other, I'm saying it's complicated and everyone involved has their own way of "how it should be". And the US is all too happy to forget that the Chinese interpretation probably can't just be ignored.
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When a corp treats me like shit, I go to a court. You do not have that option with Governments (depending on how exactly they set up their country), as they typically represent the ultima ratio in these countries. Chinese exploitation of their population is hardly "symbiotic". It's like saying the lion and the gazelle are symbiotic, because the gazelle happens to feed the lion. What? :P
Or are you saying globalism is symbiotic?
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Umm....maybe I missed something earlier in the thread, but China abolished the one-child policy back in 2015-2016. Did you not check that before posting?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-ch...licy#Abolition
Also, after they abolished the policy, the Chinese birth rates ticked up slightly....for one year. Then they started failing again, even faster than before.In October 2015, the Chinese news agency Xinhua[69] announced plans of the government to abolish the one-child policy, now allowing all families to have two children, citing from a communiqué issued by the CPC "to improve the balanced development of population" – an apparent reference to the country's female-to-male sex ratio – and to deal with an aging population according to the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation.[33][70][71][72][73][74][75][76] The new law took effect on 1 January 2016 after it was passed in the Standing Committee of the National People's Congress on 27 December 2015
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51145251
So were did you get your information from before?
The demand that leads to exploitation of workers, is what is symbiotic. What’s the point of abusing your workers if you get enough revenue to treat them better? What is the point of abusing workers, if they get paid enough to afford junk made by happy workers?
Unless we make everyone equal, it simply has to be.Or are you saying globalism is symbiotic?
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It is the same problem throughout all the developed countries. Yes, China is now a developed countries. US also has the same problem.
US birth rates just plummeted to their lowest since the baby boom era
However, the US has one advantage over China. Or for that matter, every single developed countries in the world. We are immigrant magnet. Even under Trump's decidedly anti-immigrant policies, the drop in legal immigration to the US is minimal (7.3%). At least until the pandemic hit. Legal immigration to the US during the pandemic took a big hit.
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Says the guy that has yet to present any? You really shouldn't be talking about anything tbh.
Then looking at one of your latest posts, and you tried to say Hitler and Nazism was left wing. No fucking wondering you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. You and your bullshit revisionist history.
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I think you have demonstrated why a lot of Western governments and people do not understand anything about Africa. It is a very large continent and currently there are nations in there on equivalent footing with the EU in terms of prosperity. China did not make this mistake and invested now Western nations are scrambling to catch up.
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Not sure. I'd say... do what China is doing, and extend our influence in Africa with projects and support.
Also, more control over corporations to stop them from abusing cheap/slave labour, evade taxes and to stop them from supporting China.
But honestly I don't know if this would work and perhaps it's too late.
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"In order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must be intolerant of intolerance." Paradox of tolerance
What was the impact of the US blacklisting Huawei?
The once #1 smart phone vendor by shipment (Apple was #1 by sale and #3 by shipment) in the world tumbled to #6. It shipped 33 million smartphones globally in the fourth quarter of 2020, a 41% year-on-year decline. It forced Huawei to sell off its budget Honor smartphone brand in November, and it is now looking at divesting its flagship Mate and P brand.
(Note: Apple produced 77.6 million iPhones units in the fourth quarter of 2020, 69.8 million of which were iPhone 12 models. Apple is currently #1 in both shipment and sale. Ahead of Samsung at second place.)
Two factors for the decline. Cutting Huawei off from Google’s Android operating system is not a big deal in China where Google services such a Gmail and search are blocked. But in international markets, it has been key to Huawei’s growth as consumers are used to these services.
The other factor is that their 5G smart phones use 7- (only made in the US, Korea & Taiwan under US license) and 5-nanometer wavers (only made in Taiwan under US license). So now they are limited to only making 4G phones.
The company has now diversified to less tech-intensive fields of providing technology to coal mining, pig farming and fish farming. It has now expanded its solar inverter (use 28-nanometer chips) and power module (use 90-nanometer chips) manufacturing and sale.
This has shown the Chinese the limit of advancing their technology through IP theft. Just because you have access to the blue print, do not meant that you can build a house. Especially in tech where the usability cycle today is counted in 1 - 2 years. Taiwan just started commercial production of 3-nanometer wavers this year, and already they are planning to produce 2-nanometer wavers next year. Very short cycle. Meanwhile, China is still stuck making 14-nanometer wavers.
What’s the difference between 14- and 3-nanometers chip? Huge. A 14-nanometer chip, which is used in dual-core mobile variant of the Intel Core i3/i5/i7, has a theoretical density of 17.185 million transistors per square millimetre. A 3-nanometer chip is over 100 trillion.
The same thing that the US did to Huawei, it could do to every single Chinese companies that use 10-nanometer chips or better in its manufacturing process.
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