Stars Are Flirting With the Far Right

[Milchshake]

Honestly, I don't think here snipped comments are worth this much effort. I don't have the heart to try to listen to the whole thing right now, but if there are any braver souls then godspeed.

Ya it's not worth it. If I learned anything over the past five years.... getting into online knife fights over a 7% disagreement on policy just isnt worth it. Unless your online brand depends on it.

Of course if other podcasters want to get into a fight with each other. I'll watch, if I got time to kill on my lunch break.

<insert Simpson's monkey knife fight pic>

I tried looking for a charitable interpretation for Silverman's rant. Just cant see it. Anyways, I'd wager she's back to dunking on shitlibs within a week.

Clickbait is not contrition.

[Edge-]

I tried looking for a charitable interpretation for Silverman's rant. Just cant see it. Anyways, I'd wager she's back to dunking on shitlibs within a week.

I'm trying to find anything about this episode or whatever and all that's turning up are glowing features about her new podcast(s). Currently having a giggle about reading WashPo wax poetic about her "superpower" of being able to de-escalate a situation by acting like a normal human being.

[downnola]

She's right that it's terrible that so much bullshit has been tied up in political affiliation, generally.

However, to quibble, Republicans have repeatedly and en massed engaged in deliberate disinformation campaigns to push false narratives and mislead the public regarding the intent behind platform positions. Trickle-down economics, voter ID laws, COVID response, plenty of examples. There's good reason to consider a Republican idea suspect, given the source. But I think the big difference is that Democrats, at least Democratic politicians, approach it with suspicion but analyse it for merit. Whereas Republicans just wholesale deny based on the source. As a for-instance, consider the ACA; it was based loosely on Romneycare.

I think she's overall right, but I think she's being a bit too "both sides" in the end. I think she's right to not identify as a Democrat, but that's because I think party affiliation shouldn't be a personal identity in the first place. I sure don't have one. Doesn't mean you're waffling between Democrat and Republican; you could as easily be way more socialist than Democrats and still strongly oppose Republican platform ideas.

I'll bet you cup of Timmy's if she shows up on the Ruben Report ranting about the Democrats in the next few months. Not that I disagree with what you're saying, but red flags go off whenever I hear someone talk about political purity on the one hand, and both sideisms on the other.

[Daedius]

Can we just have two Internets already, so no one has the audacity of hearing opinions from the opposite side, which are all obviously wrong?

Would prefer having the US its own separate internet so the rest of the world doesn't have to see the nutjobs on both ends of the spectrum that primarily originate from there with whatever agenda or fight they come up with next.

Wishful thinking... /sigh

[Magical Mudcrab]

I'll bet you cup of Timmy's if she shows up on the Ruben Report ranting about the Democrats in the next few months. Not that I disagree with what you're saying, but red flags go off whenever I hear someone talk about political purity on the one hand, and both sideisms on the other.

I get what you mean. There's a lot of large content creators, especially on YouTube, that portray themselves as centrist or mildly to the left and then proceed down conservative rabbit holes and (try to) provide legitimacy to what would otherwise be outlandish claims or will use extreme positions as a method to mock or demean more liberal principles and ideas (for example, talking about individuals who call math racist as a means to distract from the larger issue of how socialization moves minorities away from STEM). That said, I don't think she's at risk of becoming a conservative over something like this, she seems more exasperated over political partisanship than anything.

[Ursus]

It's not just individuals anymore when there are school books in US elementary schools out there which are claiming that shamanism might be a valid alternative to "white maths & science".

^^^^ This is your brain on Tucker Carlson.

[Mihalik]

It's not just individuals anymore when there are school books in US elementary schools out there which are claiming that shamanism might be a valid alternative to "white maths & science".

That's an allegation that needs citation.

The only voodoo that's being taught in American schools is white Christian voodoo. Namely creationism.

https://www.theatlantic.com/educatio...lution/598312/

[Machismo]

We seem to agree that such kind of 'ideas' are not anything that should be taught to children at a young age, or to anyone.
Then let's together keep offering resistance whenever people try to push such ideas into the mainstream, if and when they do so.
Further discussion on whether these books exist or not might be fruitless, it's something that was reported on in mainstream media over in West-Europe about two-three weeks ago (and mocked a bit).

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That is dumb too. Religion has it's place in education and in society, but not as an alternative to sciences.

Either way, it's difficult to have these conversations since both are forbidden topics...

So, can you actually back up your claims, or shall we just consider it another lie? Are they teaching this where you live in Florida?

Yes, our memories around here are long, and we are not apt to simply believe people who lied about moving to Florida, just to vote for Trump, people who have made false claims about being concerned about sexual assault, and those who shill for such liars.

[Felya]

Either way, it's difficult to have these conversations since both are forbidden topics...

It’s not that difficult... you can present evidence of what you claimed or be an example of the thread it self.

^^^^ This is your brain on Tucker Carlson.

Tim Pool... he has linked him before...

[Felya]

People who do that get infracted.

Then why wouldn’t you get infracted, for saying what’s in the evidence? Would going off topic to talk about infractions, get one infracted?

This doesn’t make any sense...

[Machismo]

People who do that get infracted.

Feel free to message us directly with that evidence.

Otherwise, we'll simply consider it one of the many lies being told by alt-righters these days.

[Biglog]

Fervent Trumpists, this film in the link below was made in 1947 by the US War Department. It's called "Don't Be a Sucker" and is a training film on how in post-WW2 to avoid falling for the propaganda and tricks of fascism, communism, hate groups like the KKK, etc. Specifically please pay attention to the fascism section where they are trying to recruit, because the parallels with Trumpism are shocking. EVERYTHING they warn about is exactly what was done by the administration from 2016-2020, and could not be more pertinent. In fact it's almost like Trump watched this video and used it as a guide on how to do what it warns about. Over 70 years old and it hits the nail on the head perfectly. Watching this video should be required for any GOP supporter after the past 4 years.

Do yourself a favor no matter which side of this issue you stand on and give this a watch. Our grandparents or great-grandparents that made this knew this could be a problem, and they were 100% correct. I promise it will be eye opening.

https://youtu.be/vGAqYNFQdZ4

[zorkuus]

What is educational about religion that it should be taught in schools?

Kids should be taught that these things called religions exist. That's about it. I don't know why that would require a school to get the point across though...

[Shadowferal]

What is educational about religion that it should be taught in schools?

If you care about interacting with most of the world then it's necessary.

[Endus]

What is educational about religion that it should be taught in schools?

Basic respect for the beliefs and traditions of other people. Comparative religious studies are a pretty important subject to cover. Just need to be sure the curriculum stops short of recommending any particular conclusions on what choices any student should make regarding their own beliefs should be.

[Mihalik]

People who do that get infracted.

Bullshit.

I linked my source, still waiting on that infraction.

Source or stfu and gtfo.

[Edge-]

Either way, it's difficult to have these conversations since both are forbidden topics...

We won't be discussing the tenants of shamanism, we won't be analyzing it as a religion. We just want a link yo, that's not against the rules.

Put up or shut up, because your frequent outrageous claims followed by your refusal to back them up are getting super duper mega boring, yo.

[Milchshake]

We won't be discussing the tenants of shamanism, we won't be analyzing it as a religion. We just want a link yo, that's not against the rules.

Put up or shut up, because your frequent outrageous claims followed by your refusal to back them up are getting super duper mega boring, yo.

Ya it's pretty boring. Internet kidz trying to shock their parents by going Qanon.


Grifter verse is just out of ideas. Forming a dumb Voltron to grift money from dumber people flush with stimulus money.



Next on "When your parents send you to elites schools and you still fail podcast"

[Felya]

What is educational about religion that it should be taught in schools?

I had a theology class in HS... but, it was more history than anything else...

[Edge-]

What is educational about religion that it should be taught in schools?

Cultural education. It was a part of my world history etc. classes in learning about the different cultures within respective regions. Hard to learn about a peoples and ignore their faith, even if you don't get into a nitty gritty theological study of the faith and it's much more of a high level overview.