Stars Are Flirting With the Far Right

[Machismo]

Even if a billion chimed in I wouldn't be inclined to believe it.

In the meantime I managed to find some official US government documents that detail a huge amount of time is wasted in education due to imperial to metric conversions.

Link: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...q-QGYqJnwhTceF



So @Endus you were right, it was easy to find a few references. I expect you will apologize for your insistence on the subject?



Seems there is an entire market out there to teach metric courses to teachers and the like.

So, absolutely nothing like what you claimed.

Damn, you Trumpsters cannot stop lying to shill for weird causes.

[Endus]

So @Endus you were right, it was easy to find a few references. I expect you will apologize for your insistence on the subject?

Given that you've pulled a source that states American schools do teach both systems, and consider having to do so a waste, you've successfully managed to disprove your own original claim, and somehow are trying to claim that as a win.

So no, I'm not gonna "apologize" for you being wrong and proving it to everyone but, apparently, yourself.

[Ivanstone]

Seems there is an entire market out there to teach metric courses to teachers and the like.

How long do you think it takes to actually learn to use the metric system?

[Machismo]

I found more, namely some US civil engineering students or teachers explaining that US civil engineering courses EXCLUSIVELY use imperial units and how it causes many students to struggle or to take extra classes:



Seems to me our local forumgoers generally have no clue about what goes on in civil engineering courses.

You made claims, and still cannot back them up. Moving goalposts doesn't make you any less of a liar.

[Ivanstone]

I found more, namely some US civil engineering students or teachers explaining that US civil engineering courses EXCLUSIVELY use imperial units and how it causes many students to struggle or to take extra classes:

America mostly uses Imperial for day-to-day life. Civil Engineering is a subject where its more useful to use Imperial since the people performing construction will be using Imperial.

Furthermore, if you need to convert to metric there's this fascinating device called a "computer" that can perform simple mathematical equations quickly.

[bladeXcrasher]

I found more, namely some US civil engineering students or teachers explaining that US civil engineering courses EXCLUSIVELY use imperial units and how it causes many students to struggle or to take extra classes:



Seems to me our local forumgoers generally have no clue about what goes on in civil engineering courses.

Again, BS.
https://catalog.utsa.edu/undergradua...g/#degreestext

All civil engineers need to take chemistry and chemistry is solely in SI units.

If you actually went and found out why they design in imperial units its because the contractors building aren't degreed people and convert everything from metric anyway.

US government contracts REQUIRE civil engineering designs to be in metric.

You continue to be wrong.

[Elegiac]

Seems to me our local forumgoers generally have no clue about what goes on in civil engineering courses.

That's nice dear, still doesn't address you insisting that engineering students in the US have to take an extra year to compensate for the measurement conversions when that manifestly isn't the case. Lul.

Again, has some real "I heard it from my girlfriend who lives in Canada" energy, much like your nonsense claim they were teaching shamanism and then using Bari Weiss of all people as a source (who doesn't provide any evidence for her arguments, either).

[bladeXcrasher]

The fuck people were you talking to? What school offers such classes?

None, but they also started this off claiming that they took engineering courses as well. Clearly that was a lie.

[Felya]

I found more, namely some US civil engineering students or teachers explaining that US civil engineering courses EXCLUSIVELY use imperial units and how it causes many students to struggle or to take extra classes:

Seems to me our local forumgoers generally have no clue about what goes on in civil engineering courses.

His source:
https://academia.stackexchange.com/q...ts-in-teaching

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You continue to be wrong.

His source confirms that it’s not something they test on... read the sentence after the bold...

Seems to me our local forumgoers generally have no clue about what goes on in civil engineering courses.

Uhm... your source is a different forum... and disagrees with your assertion...

[Endus]

I found more, namely some US civil engineering students or teachers explaining that US civil engineering courses EXCLUSIVELY use imperial units and how it causes many students to struggle or to take extra classes:

Here's the source, since you didn't have the guts to provide it; https://academia.stackexchange.com/q...teaching/18611

What's most ridiculous is that, given the format, you're quoting a comment on a response, which specifically opened with this;
"At the US community college where I teach physics, SI is used exclusively in all science courses. "

SI being the metric system.

So, again, this is you bragging about hitting a homerun, when we're not even playing baseball, and the only thing you're hitting with the bat is your own car. You're repeatedly disproving your original claim.

All this without repeating the above comments regarding civil engineering and the need to work with construction crews who, in the USA, may not have post-secondary training in SI units to begin with, so civil engineering is a particular little anachronism, and even there, your source indicates that you're wrong about this.

Seems to me our local forumgoers generally have no clue about what goes on in civil engineering courses.

You don't even seem to have a clue what's being said in the sources you're providing to back your own claims up. You don't have any ground to be casting aspersions on anyone else, here.

[unfilteredJW]

About time for another break and a new account Anarch.

[beanman12345]

Seems to me our local forumgoers generally have no clue about what goes on in civil engineering courses.

only local forumgoers who pretend they aren't far right trumpers, but then, they have no clue about anything, so....

[Felya]

Here's the source, since you didn't have the guts to provide it; https://academia.stackexchange.com/q...teaching/18611

You got to be quicker on the draw ‘round these parts... partna...

[beanman12345]

About time for another break and a new account Anarch.

new account? No need, just change screen names location and sig for 7th time in one year, nobody will ever know! It's worked so well.

[Endus]

You got to be quicker on the draw ‘round these parts... partna...

It'd just be nice if the bad-faith posters realized that misquoting from questionable sources and not linking to hide the source just means I drop the quote into Google and pull up the source anyway.

Literally takes 3 seconds. It's the laziest way to try and lie, since the only way it works is if everyone you're lying to is just as lazy as you are.

[Felya]

new account? No need, just change screen names location and sig for 7th time in one year, nobody will ever know! It's worked so well.

I originally thought his normies comment was because he was a fascist... but, I’m starting to think normies, might mean something else. You know how ‘special’ can go in two different directions, depending on bus length?

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Literally takes 3 seconds. It's the laziest way to try and lie, since the only way it works is if everyone you're lying to is just as lazy as you are.

They wouldn’t be coming back, if there wasn’t something in it for them... you don’t just take this much ridicule, without getting something of equal value in return.

Edit: Say what you will, but these folks are fascinating. If I had the will, it would be a fantastic subject for either psychology or philosophy. Just trying to deconstruct what is being perpetrated, not just by anyone in this thread, but more towards the OP. If I could crawl into these people’s minds, it would be a wondrous adventure. Like visiting a different dimension, where everything is extreme... Mountain Dew replaces rain... fascinating.

[downnola]

I originally thought his normies comment was because he was a fascist... but, I’m starting to think normies, might mean something else. You know how ‘special’ can go in two different directions, depending on bus length?

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They wouldn’t be coming back, if there wasn’t something in it for them... you don’t just take this much ridicule, without getting something of equal value in return.

Edit: Say what you will, but these folks are fascinating. If I had the will, it would be a fantastic subject for either psychology or philosophy. Just trying to deconstruct what is being perpetrated, not just by anyone in this thread, but more towards the OP. If I could crawl into these people’s minds, it would be a wondrous adventure. Like visiting a different dimension, where everything is extreme... Mountain Dew replaces rain... fascinating.

"The Birth of Fascist Ideology" by Zeev Sternhall is pretty useful for understanding clowns like Dore, Greenwald, the Grayzone bunch, and various posters on this forum. Making alliances with Steve Bannon, Trump, and Tucker Carlson is a means to an end: revolution that replaces liberal democracy. Nevermind that the revolution that follows would keep the foundation of capitalism intact (they're counting on it, actually), what matters is that liberalism and democratic socialism get the bullets. All the populist talk is just for appeal. If anything they resent the working class for not rising up and defeating capitalism despite the prophecy from Marx. That's why fascism is luring to them.

[Mihalik]

So either change the subject or keep on finding me keeping on claiming the same thing, I even provided official US government documents that explain a huge amount of time is wasted in US engineering courses because of the imperial system.

One more time.

Stop Gish galloping.

Your links literally never actually say what you think they are saying because you never read your own links. Not a single fucking engineering student will ever fucking need a year's worth remedial classes to do anything in SI, even if he never actually did any work in metric in his entire life.

You can literally make up an arbitrary random measurement system and they will be able to do work in it with a simple fucking conversion table.

Is it a waste of time? Yes, yes it is. But if and only when you actually need to do a conversion. But not a single fucking engineering student in any fucking engineering course will ever fucking need a year's worth of remedial classes for learning metric, or imperial for that matter (in countries that don't use imperial).

But finally, let's get back to the whole SHAMANISM as an alternative for sciences in elementary school. Where is my SHAMANISM? You still haven't provided a single fucking source that would even mention shamanism, let alone suggest it as an alternative to anything. Stop jumping from asinine claim to asinine claim without substantiating any of them.

And one more time for emphasis. Not a single fucking engineering student on planet earth will need a year's worth of remedial classes to learn any arbitrary system of measurements. At most they might need an hours worth of explanation (tho not actual class time) and a conversion table. It would make sense for engineering student to be asked to do course work in metric or imperial as a familiarization measure. The same god fucking way an IT student might be asked to do course work in binary or a physics student might be asked to do work in hexadecimals. Mathematics don't work the way you think they do.

[Santti]

But finally, let's get back to the whole SHAMANISM as an alternative for sciences in elementary school. Where is my SHAMANISM? You still haven't provided a single fucking source that would even mention shamanism, let alone suggest it as an alternative to anything. Stop jumping from asinine claim to asinine claim without substantiating any of them.

I want to know as well.

Come on, show us your work, Rochana. Surely you did not pull that one form your butt? Because that would be... embarrassing.

[Elegiac]

As for the shamanism bit it was something I saw on TV about 2 weeks ago, sadly that clip isn't something I can directly visit online

Transcripts are a thing, sweaty, especially for the "hyper woke" who are concerned about accessibility. You can just admit you're making it up.

Stop pretending there isn't a considerable amount of over-the-top wokeism going on in the USA. The only manner in which I can rationalize that is as a counter-reaction to the conservatism of the other half of the country.

Or it could just that your worldview has more in common with the conservatism of the other half.

Bitching about wokeness is this decade's bitching about political correctness. It's old, it's tired, it's still full of shit.