When will the Forsaken get their lands back?

[Vilendor]

Legally and morally the moment you die you loose ownership over everything. The only land the walking corpses deserve is a hole in a cosy graveyard.

[Ardenaso]

^no

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[LordVargK]

Nobody took it from them. They blighted it themselves. You don't burn down your own home and then ask for others to give it back... What nonsense is this?

[hortrorog]

I'm confused. I didn't play BFA. Who owns Lordaeron now? If not the Forsaken, where are they? Did they lose Silverpine, Tirisfal, and Hillsbrad?
Also the Forsaken lived there and owned those lands when they were alive too. Why would anyone question if it belongs to them or na? For that few survivor, they all should just give up their land? Sounds like people have some pent up racism, lol.
I mean they could probably share with the survivors if they really wanted to, but BFA pretty much ruined the factions relationship.
But people who are like "hurrdurr idc about forsaken it's not their land" need to take a chill pill.

[Yuli]

Funny RP thread, OP. I'd say I'm sad it derailed but it never was on rails.

Lordaeron is currently militarily occupied by the Alliance.

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Lordaeron#Battle_for_Azeroth

And the peace treaty doesn't contest that.

[hortrorog]

Legally and morally the moment you die you loose ownership over everything. The only land the walking corpses deserve is a hole in a cosy graveyard.

Except this is a world with magic so trying to implement real life law on this subject is quite silly. Especially if the overwhelming majority of the said lands are undead, and the previous governments/kingdoms are non existent. Said lands belong to them just as much as to those who survived.
Morals have nothing to do with this.

[Soon-TM]

Legally and morally the moment you die you loose ownership over everything. The only land the walking corpses deserve is a hole in a cosy graveyard.

Look, this was the canon attitude of Humans in WC3/Vanilla, and that's why Sylvanas christened the sentient undead as Forsaken. Because their families, friends, all their acquaintances were *poof* gone - and it makes sense on both sides of the equation.

What doesn't make sense is Golden's book where undeath is depicted as basically nothing more than a skin condition, where even long-term foes of the sentient zombies (and understandably so) are made to "see the Light" and realise that those gray skinned folks aren't so bad after all - where living people are implicitly more than willing to hug their relatives, even if the latter are a bunch of tattered, smelly corpses.

[Traveler Voltin]

After the Gnomes stop slacking and get Gnomeregan back. Nobody will miss Gnomeregan as a dungeon. Do it Blizz.

it was confirmed in some like off handed comment that they gnomes have had gnomergan. i think it was Kosak who said it.

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Legally and morally the moment you die you loose ownership over everything. The only land the walking corpses deserve is a hole in a cosy graveyard.

that is no where close to true.

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I'm confused. I didn't play BFA. Who owns Lordaeron now? If not the Forsaken, where are they? Did they lose Silverpine, Tirisfal, and Hillsbrad?
Also the Forsaken lived there and owned those lands when they were alive too. Why would anyone question if it belongs to them or na? For that few survivor, they all should just give up their land? Sounds like people have some pent up racism, lol.
I mean they could probably share with the survivors if they really wanted to, but BFA pretty much ruined the factions relationship.
But people who are like "hurrdurr idc about forsaken it's not their land" need to take a chill pill.

Forsaken have their lands still. most of the fighting in that area was silverpine(mission table) and the war front. Forsaken lost the warfront but pushed the alliance out of Silverpine.

[Soon-TM]

it was confirmed in some like off handed comment that they gnomes have had gnomergan. i think it was Kosak who said it.

Indeed. Gnomes have already reclaimed Gnomeregan lorewise. It would be nice to have Blizzard stop slacking and show it in-game.

[Traveler Voltin]

Indeed. Gnomes have already reclaimed Gnomeregan lorewise. It would be nice to have Blizzard stop slacking and show it in-game.

if they do another revamp they might.
it would be nice to remove the most hated dungeon.

[Aphrel]

If Blizz was smart they would make it an event like the opening of AQ. Alliance and Horde would get quests to aid the recovery of their homes and slowly the area would improve over time.

Sadly whats more likely is we get a time skip and its just magically fixed after Shadow Lands.

Im still holding out hope that we come back far into the future where factions doesnt exist anymore. Anything other than that will leave me dissapointed.

[DeltrusDisc]

Oooooh goody, the night elves get to keep Darkshore.

https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/766691-darkshore.jpg[/IMG]

lol right? Fuck the Forsaken.

[Alanar]

Hopefully they all rot away and we don’t have to deal with zombies any more.

Night elves are kibda zombies in a way they were mostly stationary throughout most of wow, so in that sense I agree lol.

[Soon-TM]

lol right? Fuck the Forsaken.

I mean, if the CC druids managed to heal the freaking Plaguelands (the westen part, at least) in less than a couple of years, it shouldn't be THAT hard to cleanse Darkshore, should it?

[DeltrusDisc]

I mean, if the CC druids managed to heal the freaking Plaguelands (the westen part, at least) in less than a couple of years, it shouldn't be THAT hard to cleanse Darkshore, should it?

We would like Teldrassil back, thanks.

[Jackstraw]

Look, this was the canon attitude of Humans in WC3/ Vanilla, and that's why the Sylvanas christened the sentient undead as Forsaken. Because their families, friends, all their acquaintances were *poof* gone - and it makes sense on both sides of the equation.

What doesn't make sense is Golden's book where undeath is depicted as basically nothing more than a skin condition, where even long-term foes of the sentient zombies (and understandably so) are made to "see the Light" and realise that those gray skinned folks aren't so bad after all - where living people are implicitly more than willing to hug their relatives, even if the latter are a bunch of tattered, smelly corpses.

And that's after Zelling too.

That's the most unsettling thing to me. It isn't even something following some struggle, the much needed reconciliation after so much strife. It's something that just happens with no previous recollection, like it's expected after all this time for everything not to mean anything anymore.

How sad it is - for the Forsaken, for the Scourge survivors - for it all to be swept under a step conveniently placed to elevate whatever new narrative tool is currently getting wasted in Oribos.

[Soon-TM]

We would like Teldrassil back, thanks.

Much like Forsaken returning to Lordaeron, that's just not going to happen, sorry. Deal with it.

[DeltrusDisc]

Much like Forsaken returning to Lordaeron, that's just not going to happen, sorry. Deal with it.

Right.

That's why we were initially laughing at the OP's suggestion. I've been dealing with it, I'm not the one making a thread asking wHeN wIlL tHe NiGhT eLvEs GeT tHeIr TrEeHoUsE bAcK?

Sylvannis fucked over her own people and the Elves.

[Traveler Voltin]

We would like Teldrassil back, thanks.

you have darkshore. why would you think you dont have the tree?

[DeltrusDisc]

you have darkshore. why would you think you dont have the tree?

Ah yes, the burnt up remains... thanks!




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