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    Quote Originally Posted by Ursus View Post
    They just held a press conference on the murders. They interviewed the suspect and he claimed he had no racial motivation and that instead he has a sex addiction and he blamed massage parlors as being a source of temptation for that addiction. He was on his way to Florida when he was apprehended and he was planning on doing more killings in Florida, possibly against the porn industry.

    Again, this is based on the suspect's words, and he could be full of shit, but it seems that this may be a religious nut type of situation, just a bit of speculation on my part. Lots of people have sex addiction, the only reason I can think of why someone would kill over it is if they hated themselves so much for it and thought they were going to Hell because of it. We do know from his high school classmates that he was extremely religious.
    He went on many racist rants against the Chinese on social media, so he probably just trying to get out of a hate crime charge,

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrown1917 View Post
    He went on many racist rants against the Chinese on social media, so he probably just trying to get out of a hate crime charge,
    That is interesting, do you have a link to those racist rants? I hadn't heard about those yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ursus View Post
    They just held a press conference on the murders. They interviewed the suspect and he claimed he had no racial motivation and that instead he has a sex addiction and he blamed massage parlors as being a source of temptation for that addiction. He was on his way to Florida when he was apprehended and he was planning on doing more killings in Florida, possibly against the porn industry.

    Again, this is based on the suspect's words, and he could be full of shit, but it seems that this may be a religious nut type of situation, just a bit of speculation on my part. Lots of people have sex addiction, the only reason I can think of why someone would kill over it is if they hated themselves so much for it and thought they were going to Hell because of it. We do know from his high school classmates that he was extremely religious.
    I see, so he goes on a killing rampage because he has a sex addiction.....

    Yeah that's going to solve your sex addition problem! Sounds like a BS excuse to get them to drop the hate crime portion of the charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrown1917 View Post
    He went on many racist rants against the Chinese on social media, so he probably just trying to get out of a hate crime charge,
    But what would be the point? Pretty sure its a life sentence regardless

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    I am not anti-gun, but so many factors of culture lead to crazy and needless death in the US.

    Just this past week 15 people were shot and 2 were shot dead at a warehouse party here in Chicago.

    https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-shoo...arty/10420673/

    What senselessness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    But what would be the point? Pretty sure its a life sentence regardless
    Possibly to try and paint himself as a victim of his addiction rather than a white supremacist murderer and terrorist.

    Far as I'm concerned it's a hate crime whatever he claims his reasons were. Misogyny or Racism or Both.
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    Interesting infographic.





    Between 1950 and 1980 America saw a total of one mass shooting incident that left eight or more people dead (the University of Texas tower shooting).

    Since then there have been dozens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    Interesting infographic.

    [IMG]https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/with-ar-15-mass-shooters-have-the-same-killing-power-as-many-american-troops-promo-facebookJumbo.jpeg



    Between 1950 and 1980 America saw a total of one mass shooting incident that left eight or more people dead (the University of Texas tower shooting).

    Since then there have been dozens.
    Probably something that should be posted in the gun control mega-thread rather than in this one.

    Or maybe there needs to be a Mass-Shooter/Spree Shooter Mega-thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ursus View Post
    That is interesting, do you have a link to those racist rants? I hadn't heard about those yet.
    Still, authorities said they were investigating whether the deaths were hate crimes amid concerns over a wave of attacks on Asian Americans. Six of the victims were identified as Asian and seven were women.

    Officials did not say that Robert Aaron Long, 21, ever went to the parlors where the shootings occurred. They also said he was planning to go to Florida in a plot to attack “some type of porn industry.”

    “He made indicators that he has some issues, potentially sexual addiction, and may have frequented some of these places in the past,” said Sheriff Frank Reynolds, of Cherokee County, where one of the targeted businesses was.

    He said it was too early to tell if it was racially motivated — “but the indicators right now are it may not be.” He added: “We believe that he frequented these places in the past and maybe have been lashing out.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    Possibly to try and paint himself as a victim of his addiction rather than a white supremacist murderer and terrorist.

    Far as I'm concerned it's a hate crime whatever he claims his reasons were. Misogyny or Racism or Both.
    Id still lean towards misogyny than race in this instance but that still seems neither here nor there given hes going to be in jail for life anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    Id still lean towards misogyny than race in this instance but that still seems neither here nor there given hes going to be in jail for life anyway
    Well, it could be the difference between a Life Sentence and the Death Penalty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrown1917 View Post
    He went on many racist rants against the Chinese on social media, so he probably just trying to get out of a hate crime charge,
    Can you provide evidence of this?

    If not, a full retraction is an acceptable substitute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    But what would be the point? Pretty sure its a life sentence regardless
    Nahhh, since the shootings happened in Georgia, capital punishment is on the menu.
    Also, since he attempted to travel to Florida, shouldn't then federal crimes apply as well, where he can obviously also be sentenced to death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    Well, it could be the difference between a Life Sentence and the Death Penalty.
    I wasnt sure if ga still did that so i didnt bring it up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Still, authorities said they were investigating whether the deaths were hate crimes amid concerns over a wave of attacks on Asian Americans.
    The police concluded it wasn't a racially-driven hate crime because the man wasn't targeting a specific race. It was sexually-driven for he only targeted women:

    Robert Aaron Long, the suspect in the killing of eight people at three massage parlors in the Atlanta area, said he targeted the businesses in retaliation for providing an outlet for his sexual addiction, law-enforcement officials said.

    Six of the victims were women of Asian descent, officials said.

    Mr. Long, who is in custody, took responsibility for the shootings and said he acted alone, Capt. Jay Baker of the Cherokee County Sheriff’s Office said.

    “It’s a temptation for him that he wanted to eliminate,” Capt. Baker said. “He said it was not racially motivated.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    I wasnt sure if ga still did that so i didnt bring it up
    I wasn't sure either...so I took 10 seconds to google it.

    And I'm not saying that it was racially motivated and I'm not saying that it wasn't.

    I'm just saying if someone is looking to avoid the death penalty...downplaying any possible hate-crime angles to the murderers they committed is probably a good start
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yadryonych View Post
    The police concluded it wasn't a racially-driven hate crime because the man wasn't targeting a specific race. It was sexually-driven for he only targeted women:
    guy with racist "lives matter" signature tries to say race wasn't involved when a person goes on an asian killing spree and has said anti-asian things online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    I wasn't sure either...so I took 10 seconds to google it.

    And I'm not saying that it was racially motivated and I'm not saying that it wasn't.

    I'm just saying if someone is looking to avoid the death penalty...downplaying any possible hate-crime angles to the murderers they committed is probably a good start
    Well it makes more sense now, but looking at the.above statements he might not get it anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    guy with racist "lives matter" signature tries to say race wasn't involved
    Didn't know Capt. Jay Baker of the Cherokee County Sheriff’s Office had the same signature with message of life importance. He must be a really nice guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yadryonych View Post
    The police concluded it wasn't a racially-driven hate crime
    Ah yes an American police department assuring us that something totally wasn't racially motivated while also dropping such gems as “He was fed up, at the end of his rope...yesterday was a really bad day for him and this is what he did".

    We should totally take those clowns seriously, though. It's not as if viewing Asian women as targets of sexual temptation is a racial motivation because we live in a culture which dehumanizes Asian service workers and stereotypes Asian women as submissive sexual objects, right?
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